I am not sure this mail got through so can someone please confirm receipt Thanks Colin Hi All, Much fun and games yesterday or not with my N86 dying. Whilst I still think I need a new one after being off all night it came back to some sort of life this morning but without TALKS or anything else as it was re set yesterday. By the way big thanks to Neil Barnfather for all his help in trying to get back up and running yesterday. I have now tried to ire install TALKS and Elequance. Elequance went on ok TALKS told me was already installed and did I want ot overide. File seems to be there as can be found in Office / file manager / mass memory / nokia File called TALKS 520 3 signed . Sisx When try and install says Certificate may not yet be valid is expired or phones data setting may be incorrect. All help welcomed Thanks as always Colin