I had one too Amro and when I accidentally dropped it twice within 5 minutes and it stopped working, sent it to RNIB they said they could not repair it. I asked them to ask Tissot and they said they did. I did not believe them. Then I asked to see where Tissot refused saying that it would not release the part to RNIB. RNIB did not show me the correspondance because of couorse there was none.It was a lovely Tissot watch and cost £129.00 ladies one. I remember the gents one too, very nice indeed.
Eleanor----- Original Message ----- From: "Amro Bilal" <Lists@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 12:59 PM Subject: [talks-uk] Re: RNIB Bashing!
Umm, do you mean the Tissot TSilent? Sorry I've no link to provide. You could find your nearest Tissot dealer shop and pay them a visit. There's one in Trafford Centre; you're in Manchester right? And as it happens, the RNIB used to stock them *smile* but I don't know if they still do. If you can get it through the RNIB you'd save the VAT. I can't remember how much I paid for mine but it was something like £150/£200. I have an audio manual for it in MP3 format which I can happily email to you if that helps. It explains all about the watch. I'm off soon to Durham for the weekend so can send the MP3 file when I'm back.HTH, Amro----- Original Message ----- From: "Neil Barnfather - TalkNav" <talks@xxxxxxxxxxx>To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 12:24 PM Subject: [talks-uk] Re: RNIB Bashing! Can you post a link as to where we can learn about this watch? Neil Barnfather WFA List Administrator Talks Users Host Don't forget TalkNav which is a Nuance accessibility and Wayfinder Access software dealer and distributor, for all your product needs with instant product activation and an online store supporting British Sterling, US Dollars and Euros. www.talknav.net +44 161 277 7997 service@xxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Amro Bilal Sent: 14 November 2008 10:41 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: RNIB Bashing! Neil, how about the Tissot TSilent? Elegant, good brand and appealing toboth sighted and blind people alike. With its touch sensitive face it's thecoolest gadget I've seen in the past few years me thinks! Tissot designed that watch to be used by the sighted user but added the pulsing feature to make it usable by the VI. Don't I just love this philosophy; that what manufacturers should aim for where ever is possible. The new IPods areanother example of that. I'll let you in on another secret! I was told that Citizen is following suit and they're designing a watch that won't look lessappealing than the TSilent. Instead of the pulses, the Citizen watch will use intermittent beeps to indicate the time. However, I've never seen thatpromised watch; a Citizen dealer mentioned it to me and said that it's tobe released in the very near future. I'm just waiting to test it myself andsee if it really can be used by the blind and then definitely will post a message about it, after I get myself one of course! :) Cheers, Amro----- Original Message ----- From: "Neil Barnfather - TalkNav" <talks@xxxxxxxxxxx>To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 9:47 AM Subject: [talks-uk] Re: RNIB Bashing! I agree, Does anyone out there know where we can buy aesthetically pleasing blind watches etc? there must be a supplier out there? Neil Barnfather WFA List Administrator Talks Users Host Don't forget TalkNav which is a Nuance accessibility and Wayfinder Access software dealer and distributor, for all your product needs with instant product activation and an online store supporting British Sterling, US Dollars and Euros. www.talknav.net +44 161 277 7997 service@xxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Amro Bilal Sent: 14 November 2008 00:26 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: RNIB Bashing! I usually avoid I agree messages, but very well said, Matt. Cheers, Amro----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Brown" <matthew_brown@xxxxxxx>To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 11:33 PM Subject: [talks-uk] Re: RNIB Bashing! I just can't understand why RNIB and various other commercial companieshaven't cottoned on to the idea that not all blind people are stereo-typicaldark glasses, white stick and nasty tacky plastic rooster touting talkingwatch kind of people! None of the talking watches available are particularlysexy to look at lets face it, especially not compared to watches for fully sighted people, not even the metal ones. I've seen some incredibly sexy rectangular face watches for fully sightedsthat just look like they're a continuation of the wrist strap, and somethinglike that would be really nice with a voice.I know someone is bound to say that the components required to make a watchtalk are too bulky for such a design, but that's utter nonsense! Thecomponents can be made to fit a much smaller housing than the talking watchhousings currently available. Matt----- Original Message ----- From: "Darren Harris" <darren_g_harris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 5:09 PM Subject: [talks-uk] Re: RNIB Bashing! Oh you mean that stupid excuse for a mobile phone, that is so rediculously expensive, so revolutionary that you can't even text properly on it? I looked at one and all I wanted to do when I saw it was to put my foot through it. What a peace of junk of I ever did see one! -----Original Message----- From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke Sent: 13 November 2008 17:06 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: RNIB Bashing! OMG yes I had forgotten about those. Eleanor----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Wilson" <barkingbabs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 5:00 PM Subject: [talks-uk] Re: RNIB Bashing!Hmm, that rooster really gets on my nerves. Still, guess it's not quite as bad as the farmyard animals on their mobile phone! Barbara Get listed, network or find a business at an online directory of businesses owned and run by disabled people and associated support andadvisory organisations: www.barkingbabs.co.uk----- Original Message ----- From: "Neil Barnfather - TalkNav" <talks@xxxxxxxxxxx>To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 4:50 PM Subject: [talks-uk] RNIB Bashing! Barbra, More to the point why do they insist on making the Alarms and clock announcements so dam noisy! We're blind not deaf after all! Neil Barnfather WFA List Administrator Talks Users Host Don't forget TalkNav which is a Nuance accessibility and Wayfinder Access software dealer and distributor, for all your product needs with instant product activation and an online store supporting BritishSterling, US Dollars and Euros. www.talknav.net +44 161 277 7997 service@xxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Barbara Wilson Sent: 13 November 2008 12:53 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: moving talks Probably playing with all those clocks they make. Someone asked me recently, why do RNIB feel the need to put a clock on ever damn product they produce? Barbara Get listed, network or find a business at an online directory of businesses owned and run by disabled people and associated support and advisory organisations: www.barkingbabs.co.uk----- Original Message ----- From: "Eleanor Burke" <eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 12:22 PM Subject: [talks-uk] Re: moving talksWhat are they doing is what I want to know. If you want to speak to Hi-Tech and have a demonstration of something that has to be on a Thursdayhere in London. What are they doing the other 4 days because they they donot always return my calls or if I ask them to e-mail me they do not.I think they just sit in an office!!!! Eleanor ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darren Harris" <darren_g_harris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 12:16 PM Subject: [talks-uk] Re: moving talks What the rnib? They're a bunch of prats who really haven't got a clueat the end of the day. -----Original Message----- From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of All formats Sent: 13 November 2008 11:59 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: moving talks I should get used to them being around though. They are taking over everything it seems. Still, another list another discussion I guess! Paul Hopkins - Manager (All Formats) Queen Alexandra College Court Oak Road Harborne BIRMINGHAM B17 9TG Tel: 0121 428 5018 Fax: 0121 428 5048 E-mail: allformats@xxxxxxxxx Web: www.allformats.org.uk Allformats - Braille, Audio, Digital and Large Print Resources for Access by People with a Visual Impairment. ***** Confidentiality and Disclaimer: This email and its attachments are intended for the addressee(s) onlyand may be confidential or the subject of legal privilege. If this email and its attachments have come to you in error you must take no action based on them, nor must you retain them, copy them, distributethem or disclose their contents to any other person. Please contact the sender immediately to notify them of the error. Opinions, conclusions and other information in this e-mail that do not relate to the official business of Queen Alexandra College shall be understood as neither given nor endorsed by it. ***** -----Original Message----- From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke Sent: 13 November 2008 11:47 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: moving talks Well I have always seen (for want of a better word) the RNIB as the Auricle but now I am changing my mind. Eleanor ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Wilson" <barkingbabs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 11:24 AM Subject: [talks-uk] Re: moving talksHi Eleanor Don't ever be surprised that the RNIB know very little! Barbara Get listed, network or find a business at an online directory of businesses owned and run by disabled people and associated support andadvisory organisations: www.barkingbabs.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eleanor Burke" <eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 10:19 AM Subject: [talks-uk] Re: moving talksNeil Thank you for that. I am a bit fed up at present, want to buy the Wayfinder, got one price from RNIB, another at Sight Village from theCompany and another from Computer Room Services. Now I am not complaining about any of these Agents for the product but thecheapestprice came at Sight Village here in London and they did not say itwasfor the day only. I thought I had time to go away and think about it.Now I am not going to purchase it. In fact it was only when I asked Steve or someone on the Access list a question about upgrading Talks that a person at RNIB who hadtold meIcould not upgrade then said it was news to her that I could upgradefromVodafone Talks to Premium Talks on another phone for £50.00. ThatfromRNIB Hi-Tech! Eleanor ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neil Barnfather - TalkNav" <talks@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 10:03 AM Subject: [talks-uk] Re: moving talks Eleanor, That's correct, whilst Talks continues to work, minus the ability to move the license again, WFA can only function on one handset at a time. But they don't charge to move from phone to phone. Neil Barnfather WFA List Administrator Talks Users Host Don't forget TalkNav which is a Nuance accessibility and Wayfinder Access software dealer and distributor, for all your product needs with instant product activation and an online store supporting British Sterling, US Dollars and Euros. www.talknav.net +44 161 277 7997 service@xxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke Sent: 13 November 2008 10:01 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: moving talks No deactivation of Talks there Scot from what Steve said. He explained that very well about upgrading from phone A to B and B to C. Have a look at his reply there again. Steve has told me though that Wayfinder would deactivate from one phone to another if put on a second phone. Eleanor ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott C" <castledine10@xxxxxxx> To: "Talks List Talks List" <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 9:47 AM Subject: [talks-uk] Re: moving talksThanks mate. So wen moving from B to C does talks stay on B or deactivate? Thanks Scott. -----Original Message----- From: Steve Nutt - Email Address: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent On: 13/11/2008 09:38 Sent To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Email Address: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: moving talks Hi Scott, As many times as you like, but you can only use one phone per upgrade. In other words, you buy Phone A, you then use Phone A to upgrade toPhoneB. You can still use Phone B to upgrade to Phone C, but you can't usePhoneA to upgrade to Phone C. So in other words, if you sell on Phone A,the new customer can't use it for an upgrade, if you have done so. All the best Steve -----Original Message----- From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Scott C Sent: Thursday 13 November 2008 09:37 To: Talks List Talks List Subject: [talks-uk] moving talks Hi folks. How many times can talks be moved from one phone to another? I know it's £50 to move it over from one to another, but how many times can I? Thanks Scott.-- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 5.6 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 650 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighterhere: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message No virus found in this incoming message. 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