[talks-uk] Re: RNIB Bashing!
- From: "Neil Barnfather - TalkNav" <talks@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 12:24:57 -0000
Can you post a link as to where we can learn about this watch?
Neil Barnfather
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-----Original Message-----
From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Amro Bilal
Sent: 14 November 2008 10:41
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: RNIB Bashing!
Neil, how about the Tissot TSilent? Elegant, good brand and appealing to
both sighted and blind people alike. With its touch sensitive face it's the
coolest gadget I've seen in the past few years me thinks! Tissot designed
that watch to be used by the sighted user but added the pulsing feature to
make it usable by the VI. Don't I just love this philosophy; that what
manufacturers should aim for where ever is possible. The new IPods are
another example of that. I'll let you in on another secret! I was told that
Citizen is following suit and they're designing a watch that won't look less
appealing than the TSilent. Instead of the pulses, the Citizen watch will
use intermittent beeps to indicate the time. However, I've never seen that
promised watch; a Citizen dealer mentioned it to me and said that it's to
be released in the very near future. I'm just waiting to test it myself and
see if it really can be used by the blind and then definitely will post a
message about it, after I get myself one of course! :)
Cheers,
Amro
----- Original Message -----
From: "Neil Barnfather - TalkNav" <talks@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 9:47 AM
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: RNIB Bashing!
I agree,
Does anyone out there know where we can buy aesthetically pleasing blind
watches etc? there must be a supplier out there?
Neil Barnfather
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-----Original Message-----
From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Amro Bilal
Sent: 14 November 2008 00:26
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: RNIB Bashing!
I usually avoid I agree messages, but very well said, Matt.
Cheers,
Amro
----- Original Message -----
From: "Matt Brown" <matthew_brown@xxxxxxx>
To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 11:33 PM
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: RNIB Bashing!
I just can't understand why RNIB and various other commercial companies
haven't cottoned on to the idea that not all blind people are stereo-typical
dark glasses, white stick and nasty tacky plastic rooster touting talking
watch kind of people! None of the talking watches available are particularly
sexy to look at lets face it, especially not compared to watches for fully
sighted people, not even the metal ones.
I've seen some incredibly sexy rectangular face watches for fully sighteds
that just look like they're a continuation of the wrist strap, and something
like that would be really nice with a voice.
I know someone is bound to say that the components required to make a watch
talk are too bulky for such a design, but that's utter nonsense! The
components can be made to fit a much smaller housing than the talking watch
housings currently available.
Matt
----- Original Message -----
From: "Darren Harris" <darren_g_harris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 5:09 PM
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: RNIB Bashing!
Oh you mean that stupid excuse for a mobile phone, that is so
rediculously expensive, so revolutionary that you can't even text
properly on it? I looked at one and all I wanted to do when I saw it was
to put my foot through it. What a peace of junk of I ever did see one!
-----Original Message-----
From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke
Sent: 13 November 2008 17:06
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: RNIB Bashing!
OMG yes I had forgotten about those.
Eleanor
----- Original Message -----
From: "Barbara Wilson" <barkingbabs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 5:00 PM
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: RNIB Bashing!
> Hmm, that rooster really gets on my nerves. Still, guess it's not
> quite as
> bad as the farmyard animals on their mobile phone!
>
> Barbara
>
> Get listed, network or find a business at an online directory of
> businesses owned and run by disabled people and associated support and
> advisory organisations:
> www.barkingbabs.co.uk
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Neil Barnfather - TalkNav" <talks@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 4:50 PM
> Subject: [talks-uk] RNIB Bashing!
>
>
> Barbra,
>
> More to the point why do they insist on making the Alarms and clock
> announcements so dam noisy! We're blind not deaf after all!
>
>
>
> Neil Barnfather
> WFA List Administrator
> Talks Users Host
>
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> Sterling, US Dollars and Euros.
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Barbara Wilson
> Sent: 13 November 2008 12:53
> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: moving talks
>
> Probably playing with all those clocks they make. Someone asked me
> recently,
>
> why do RNIB feel the need to put a clock on ever damn product they
> produce?
>
> Barbara
>
> Get listed, network or find a business at an online directory of
> businesses
> owned and run by disabled people and associated support and advisory
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Eleanor Burke" <eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 12:22 PM
> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: moving talks
>
>
>> What are they doing is what I want to know. If you want to speak to
>> Hi-Tech and have a demonstration of something that has to be on a
>> Thursday
>
>> here in London. What are they doing the other 4 days because they
>> they
>> do
>
>> not always return my calls or if I ask them to e-mail me they do not.
>> I think they just sit in an office!!!!
>>
>> Eleanor
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Darren Harris" <darren_g_harris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 12:16 PM
>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: moving talks
>>
>>
>> What the rnib? They're a bunch of prats who really haven't got a clue
>> at the end of the day.
>>
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>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: moving talks
>>
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>> I should get used to them being around though.
>>
>> They are taking over everything it seems.
>>
>> Still, another list another discussion I guess!
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke
>> Sent: 13 November 2008 11:47
>> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: moving talks
>>
>> Well I have always seen (for want of a better word) the RNIB as the
>> Auricle but now I am changing my mind.
>>
>> Eleanor
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Barbara Wilson" <barkingbabs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 11:24 AM
>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: moving talks
>>
>>
>>> Hi Eleanor
>>>
>>> Don't ever be surprised that the RNIB know very little!
>>>
>>> Barbara
>>>
>>> Get listed, network or find a business at an online directory of
>>> businesses owned and run by disabled people and associated support
>>> and
>>
>>> advisory organisations:
>>> www.barkingbabs.co.uk
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Eleanor Burke" <eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 10:19 AM
>>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: moving talks
>>>
>>>
>>>> Neil
>>>> Thank you for that. I am a bit fed up at present, want to buy the
>>>> Wayfinder, got one price from RNIB, another at Sight Village from
>>>> the
>>
>>>> Company and another from Computer Room Services. Now I am not
>>>> complaining about any of these Agents for the product but the
>> cheapest
>>>> price came at Sight Village here in London and they did not say it
>> was
>>>> for the day only. I thought I had time to go away and think about
>>>> it.
>>
>>>> Now I am not going to purchase it.
>>>>
>>>> In fact it was only when I asked Steve or someone on the Access
>>>> list a question about upgrading Talks that a person at RNIB who had
>>>> told me
>> I
>>>> could not upgrade then said it was news to her that I could upgrade
>> from
>>>> Vodafone Talks to Premium Talks on another phone for £50.00. That
>> from
>>>> RNIB Hi-Tech!
>>>>
>>>> Eleanor
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Neil Barnfather - TalkNav" <talks@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 10:03 AM
>>>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: moving talks
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Eleanor,
>>>>
>>>> That's correct, whilst Talks continues to work, minus the ability
>>>> to move the license again, WFA can only function on one handset at
>>>> a time.
>>>>
>>>> But they don't charge to move from phone to phone.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Neil Barnfather
>>>> WFA List Administrator
>>>> Talks Users Host
>>>>
>>>> Don't forget TalkNav which is a Nuance accessibility and Wayfinder
>>>> Access software dealer and distributor, for all your product needs
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>>>> British Sterling, US Dollars and Euros.
>>>>
>>>> www.talknav.net
>>>> +44 161 277 7997
>>>> service@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>>> On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke
>>>> Sent: 13 November 2008 10:01
>>>> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: moving talks
>>>>
>>>> No deactivation of Talks there Scot from what Steve said. He
>>>> explained that
>>>>
>>>> very well about upgrading from phone A to B and B to C. Have a
>>>> look at his
>>>> reply there again. Steve has told me though that Wayfinder would
>>>> deactivate
>>>>
>>>> from one phone to another if put on a second phone.
>>>>
>>>> Eleanor
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Scott C" <castledine10@xxxxxxx>
>>>> To: "Talks List Talks List" <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 9:47 AM
>>>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: moving talks
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks mate. So wen moving from B to C does talks stay on B or
>>>>> deactivate?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Scott.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Steve Nutt - Email Address: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent On:
>>>>> 13/11/2008 09:38 Sent To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Email Address:
>>>>> talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: moving talks
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Scott,
>>>>>
>>>>> As many times as you like, but you can only use one phone per
>>>>> upgrade. In
>>>>> other words, you buy Phone A, you then use Phone A to upgrade to
>> Phone
>>>>> B.
>>>>> You can still use Phone B to upgrade to Phone C, but you can't use
>> Phone
>>
>>>>> A
>>>>> to upgrade to Phone C. So in other words, if you sell on Phone A,
>>>>> the new
>>>>> customer can't use it for an upgrade, if you have done so.
>>>>>
>>>>> All the best
>>>>>
>>>>> Steve
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>>>> On Behalf Of Scott C
>>>>> Sent: Thursday 13 November 2008 09:37
>>>>> To: Talks List Talks List
>>>>> Subject: [talks-uk] moving talks
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi folks. How many times can talks be moved from one phone to
>>>>> another?
>>>>>
>>>>> I know it's £50 to move it over from one to another, but how many
>>>>> times can I?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Scott.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
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