Hi Eleanor, You shouldn't have to change any setting, it is just the way the mail is transmitted. All the best Steve _____ From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke Sent: Tuesday 27 January 2009 19:45 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] G Mail Account Hi Steve I tried that 587 but it did not work for me. Now maybe I needed to change one of those other settings to correspond with it. I have the sls and lls setting I think it is called with the 465. I know the 465 one works but I am interested in what you were saying about secure and not secure. Eleanor _____ I am using the Free version of SPAMfighter <http://www.spamfighter.com/len> We are a community of 5.9 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 1184 of my spam emails to date. The Professional version does not have this message