[startgroup] SV: Re: START
- From: <Kare.Nonstad@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <startgroup@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 11:05:27 +0200
Hi Mike. Sorry You had to leave Edinburgh so soon. Isn`t it allways tempting to
try to make a good thing do even more? I have had to curb my enthusiasm
repeatedly in my ideas to make the START jump trough flaming rings etc. I like
Your model, though. There is a need for developing some kind of meta-model
concerning our branch of psyciatry.
We probable are a chatty bunch here in Trondheim, as in my experience, a START
meeting takes about an hour, maybe one and a half if we do the treatment plan
in the same meeting. This is in the beginning of the patients stay, after a
couple of STARTs, we usually make it in approx. 45 minutes. Maybe we should
look into this.
Kåre
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På vegne av Mike Doyle
Sendt: 14. juli 2009 22:30
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Emne: [startgroup] Re: START
Thanks Chris, Sarah and Steve for your helpful responses.
I think the items are ideal areas for consideration when assessing strengths
and risks, but also for the assessment of physical, psychological, social and
political needs. As you know we are piloting the START to do this as part of
applying the health career model.
Initial feedback was good but the e-proforma we used (which included evidence
boxes, formulation and intervention sections), was felt to take too long and
many never fully completed it. In a sense we 'overcooked' the process as
previous version was broadly welcomed! Therefore, attempting to make
adjustments to make the process more efficient and practically useful. Will
feedback to the group in due course.
Another query; on average how long do people find the START takes to complete?
Thanks again.
Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: christopher webster <mailto:christopherwebster@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: startgroup@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 5:52 PM
Subject: [startgroup] Re: START
Hi Mike,
Not sure I can add much. But, obviously, the HCR-20
provided a platform for us.And having a couple of senior, very
experienced,nurses (Mary-Lou and Connie) made the essential difference.
Somewhat later, as I explained in a paper given at the Montreal IAFMHS meeting
on our joint behalf, I realized that a dictionary of synonyms and antonyms
could have saved us some work. I really do,though, believe that the only way to
set up an SPJ device that has any hope of working is to establish a small group
of colleagues willing to work together assiduously until the task is done. It
is not a task for a committee and it is not a task for an individual person. It
should, of course, be a topic to be studied and researched in its own right.
Thanks, Roger, for getting this going! Cheers(We should
be a formidable presence in Vcvr) Chris.
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike Doyle <mailto:mj.doyle1@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: startgroup@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 4:15 PM
Subject: [startgroup] START
Nice one Roger!
Looking forwarwd to networking with alll on the list.
First query; where did the 20 items of the START come from?
Thanks
Mike
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