[sparkscoffee] Re: [aranet] Re: The Internet Is About to Become Worse Than Television
- From: R George <xgeorge@xxxxxxx>
- To: sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 01 May 2014 09:46:52 -0700
A good reason why to get rid of Yahoo/Aol.
RG
*Earlier this year, Yahoo acknowledged its email service had been
hacked, and all signs seem to indicate **
**that AOL Mail was also hacked -- something the company declined to
comment on when asked.**
*
For users whose email addresses have been spammed or those who will be
affected by Yahoo and
AOL's DMARC changes, Levine recommends they switch to another email
provider, such as Google's Gmail.
Levine said Gmail appears to be more secure and more stable than either
Yahoo or AOL do at this point.
"Things are really in flux," he said. "That's the best advice I can give
you right now, but next week, things
might be different."
http://www.latimes.com/business/technology/la-fi-tn-aol-yahoo-email-changes-20140423,0,2671978.story#ixzz30U0rgNSe
On 5/1/2014 9:30 AM, R George wrote:
Unless Yahoo and AOL discontinue DMARC then mailing list subscribers
using Yahoo or Aol will be automatically UN-subscribed
in most cases. I would suggest changing to another email provider. I
use my ISP's email mainly because I don't like web-based
email programs. I recommend and use this free email software -
http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/
RG
It's happening, according to email expert John Levine, because Yahoo &
AOL implemented a change that basically tells all recipients,
including Hotmail, Gmail, etc., to reject any mail originating from a
Yahoo.com or AOL.com address if it fails certain tests. In this case,
the test is that the sender email address domain must match the domain
of the server actually sending the email --- which isn't
necessarily the case if people use mailing lists or other software to
send email for them, rather than using the Yahoo.com or Aol.com
STMP servers themselves.
So, the problem applies to anyone using a Yahoo.com or Aol.com sending
address to participate in a mailing list that uses other servers.
In a discussion on the Internet Engineering Task Force's email list
--- the IETF is a non-profit body that sets Internet technological
standards ---
Levine said that this method of email authentication, called DMARC,
works well for some situations, such as for large enterprises:
For other kinds of mail it works less great, because like every mail
security system, it has an implicit model of the way mail is delivered
that
is similar but not identical to the way mail is actually delivered....
Mailing lists are a particular weak spot for DMARC. Lists invariably use
their own bounce address in their own domain, so the SPF [sender
policy framework] doesn't match.
On 5/1/2014 9:10 AM, R George wrote:
I ran across this a few minutes ago and will do more digging.
RG
Yahoo & AOL introduced a feature (DMARC) this week that basically
says "If a message has a yahoo.com or aol.com
email address as the FROM address, and it didn't come from a
Yahoo.com server, then it's not acceptable." This is
causing a LOT of problems with mailing lists.
On 5/1/2014 8:50 AM, (Redacted sender Sblumen123@xxxxxxx for DMARC)
wrote:
RG
Also I don't know where dmarc-noreply@f <mailto:dmarc-noreply@f>...
comes from???
CB
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