[sparkscoffee] Re: The United States: Police State Today, Martial Law Tomorrow; Part II

From: "D.J.J. Ring, Jr." <n1ea@xxxxxxxx>
To: "sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 16:57:06 -0400
RR,

That's not true, there are not multiple versions of the truth, and
certainly truth isn't defined as what works best for them.

You might have a lot of truthful observations, and truthful statements and
from those make an attempt at weaving together the truth, but most often
some of the truth is unknown, sometimes it becomes known known later.
Sometimes with somethings it is right in front of our eyes but we don't
discern it yet, like before Isaac Newton, we didn't get some of the rules
of physics like gravity and acceleration.

Like the old story of the elephant and the blind men, each seeing only a
part, they describe the elephant according to what they see, but by taking
a different viewpoint - impossible for blind men to see it all - you arrive
at a description that is more of the truth.

If later the elephant drops dead of disease, you can add "sickly elephant"
and you have even more of the truth.  If you discover that the elephant was
related to Jumbo the famous elephant, you can add that to the truth and you
have more of the truth.  There can be multiple truthful descriptions which
are all truthful but there is only one truth and it is foolish for most to
claim that you know it fully.

As they say, God alone knows the truth.

In any event getting to the truth is not easy if you want all of the truth.

73

DR
On Sep 30, 2014 11:46 AM, "Ron Ristad" <ristad@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> JS,
> Every person is different and each has their own version of the truth,
> which can be defined as whatever works best for them.
>
> For example, you are never going to convince a member of the Chinese
> Communist Party, most of whom are billionaires, that communism isn't a
> perfect system, particularly if they didn't believe so they would be dead
> along with rest of their family.
>
> Likewise a Jew is never going to criticize Israel because it would hurt
> them. It would be foolish for them to do so. Ask Jesus. Even a goyim in the
> U.S. is made to suffer if they criticize Israel. All the presidential
> candidates  (except Ron Paul) pledging their support of Israel on
> nationwide TV is all the proof I need of the power that Israel has over the
> U.S..
>
> I find truth in the article and I don't have any axe to grind. I am just
> trying to understand what is going on so that I can take the proper actions
> to maintain my own personal state of happiness like everybody else.
>
> I don't care if Israelis murder Palestinians or if the U.S. spreads
> terrorism only as far as it effects me. I value my freedom, and when it's
> taken away from me I try to find out what's going on so that I can take the
> proper actions to get it back, which in this case means getting
> out of Dodge because as the articles explain the subversion of the U.S.
> Government is too deeply rooted and can only end in one way. I hope that
> I'm wrong but I'm taking precautions just in case I'm not.
>
> -RR
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "schalestock@xxxxxxxx"
> Sent: Sep 30, 2014 8:09 AM
> To: sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [sparkscoffee] Re: The United States: Police State Today, Martial
> Law Tomorrow; Part II
>
> RR
>
> I don't know... some truth in the article but also a lot of BS. Hard to
> mix and match the two and come out with a reasoned conclusion. Nielson
> obviously has an ax to grind re Israel which makes for a one sided
> propaganda piece in my opinion.
>
> JS
>
>
> ---------- Original Message ----------
> From: Ron Ristad <ristad@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: undisclosed-recipients:;
> Subject: [sparkscoffee] The United States: Police State Today, Martial Law
> Tomorrow; Part II
> Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 07:08:29 -0600 (GMT-06:00)
>
> Written by Jeff Nielson Monday, 29 September 2014
>
> Part I of this two-part series detailed the hijacking of the U.S.
> democracy by a small cabal of ultra-wealthy oligarchs (primarily bankers),
> best described as the Old World Order.
>
>
> http://www.bullionbullscanada.com/us-commentary/26558-the-united-states-police-state-today-martial-law-tomorrow-part-i
>
> The method for orchestrating this unofficial, bloodless coup was also
> detailed.
>
> a)  Create a new, quasi-governmental entity (the Federal Reserve) which is
> above the government itself, and thus beyond the reach of any of its laws
> or mandates.
>
> b) Hand this quasi-governmental entity (exclusive) control over the
> printing press of the U.S., allowing the banker oligarchs who control it to
> create as much currency as they desired – and transfer every new dollar
> created to themselves.
>
> c)  With this endless/infinite supply of dirty money (all legal, official
> currency), they buy-off as many political representatives as necessary to
> control the government, in perpetuity.
>
> d) As outlined in The Bankers Manifesto of 1892; in order to hide this
> effective dictatorship, they get their political stooges to stage vehement,
> theatrical squabbles, pretending that the U.S.’s only two political parties
> are enemies rather than teammates (serving the bankers). To quote the
> Manifesto: “by thus dividing the voters, we can get them to expend their
> energies fighting over questions of no importance to us…”
>
> Part I concluded by briefly describing how these (banking) oligarchs used
> their complete control over the U.S. government to transform this oligarchy
> into a fascist police state, the Fourth Reich. The pretext for this
> transformation was the farcical/imaginary “War on Terror”, and the vehicle
> used to create this police state was the notorious “Patriot Act”.
>
> It is beyond the scope of this article to detail all the elements of this
> police state: the countless “detention centers” spread all over the
> country, the absurdly Orwellian “Department of Homeland Security”, and an
> infinite array of parallel initiatives. Instead, it can be exposed more
> effectively through unmasking the phony War on Terror (which led to its
> creation), and then focusing on particularly revealing aspects of this
> police state which have emerged during this pseudo-war.
>
> As its name suggests; the explicit goal of this pseudo-war is to “fight
> terrorism”. Yet (outside the spotlight of the Corporate media) most of the
> actual efforts of the U.S. government have been devoted to creating and/or
> supporting terrorist groups and terrorist regimes.
>
> Even here, there is far too much empirical evidence of state-sponsored
> terrorism (by the U.S.) to engage in any comprehensive discussion. The only
> starting point for such a narrative can begin with the Godfather of Modern
> Terrorism: the state of Israel.
>
> Anyone familiar with history knows that Israel is the original “terrorist
> state”. Following World War II; the state of Palestine (home of the
> Palestinian people) was a British colony. Through a relentless campaign of
> “ethnic cleansing” and executions by Jewish terrorists (primarily directed
> against innocent, Palestinian civilians), the British government was
> persuaded to withdraw from Palestine. However, before departing, the
> British carved-out a large chunk of the state of the Palestine, and handed
> it to the terrorists – which the terrorists called (call) “Israel”.
>
> The leader of the Jewish terrorists became Israel’s first prime minister.
> Far from renouncing its terrorist heritage; the government of Israel (to
> this day) openly boasts about its terrorist past, characterizing its serial
> slaughter of innocents as “necessary acts” for “the greater good” (i.e. the
> creation of Israel). Indeed, all that has changed since 1945 is that this
> terrorist group is now a terrorist regime.
>
> Its previous “acts” of terrorism have evolved into an (endless) campaign
> of state-sponsored terrorism: primarily the slow-genocide of the
> Palestinian people. When it wishes to execute Palestinians individually, or
> in small groups, it has an official department of government for such
> crimes-against-humanity: the Mossad, the world’s most-infamous/most-feared
> assassins.
>
> When it wishes to execute Palestinians in larger numbers, it turns its
> army loose upon this civilian population. It (perversely) depicts these
> heinous war crimes as “anti-terrorism operations”, “retaliation” for
> (supposed) acts of terrorism by the shadowy group known as “Hamas”. Almost
> exclusively; Hamas engages in “rocket attacks” against Israel: more
> specifically; it has launched 10’s of thousands of rockets against Israel
> (over a span of decades) – rockets which never hurt anyone or even hit any
> targets...
>
> ...Clearly, if there was/is any legitimacy to “the War on Terror”, the
> first nation which should have been in the cross-hairs of the U.S.
> war-machine is Israel. But (as previously stated) the real agenda of the
> Fourth Reich is not to “fight terrorism”, but rather to create it, and use
> it as a pretext for its fascist policies/ambitions, following in the
> footsteps of Israel. To illustrate this requires nothing more than pointing
> to the newest Terrorist Boogeymen: “ISIS”.
>
> To quote recently retired U.S. Lt. General Tom McInerney: “We helped to
> build ISIS.” But the general is being far too modest. As is detailed in a
> superbly documented video presentation (which includes the general’s
> quote), not only did the U.S. “build” ISIS, by arming and funding it, in a
> step-by-step manner, but this terrorism-building operation is part of a
> standard blueprint for American foreign policy [quoting from the video
> presentation]:
>
> i)          Build up a dictator or extremist group which can be then used
> to wage proxy wars against opponents. During this stage any crimes
> committed by these proxies are swept under the rug. [Problem]
>
> ii)         When these nasty characters have outlived their usefulness,
> that’s when it’s time to pull out all that dirt from under the rug and
> start publicizing it 24/7. This obviously works best when the public has no
> idea how these bad guys came to power. [Reaction]
>
> iii)       Finally, when the public [is] practically begging for the
> government to do something, a solution is proposed. Usually the solution
> involves military intervention, the loss of certain liberties, or both.
> [Solution]
>
> Sound eerily familiar? It should. We just saw precisely this strategy
> being played-out in Afghanistan, in a campaign spanning nearly 30 years.
> When the U.S. was building up an extremist group in Afghanistan (as its
> beloved allies) to “fight the Soviets”; the world knew these extremists by
> the name “Mujahideen”.
>
> When the U.S. government wished to move to Stage 2, and demonize these
> same extremists; they were re-branded with the name “Al Qaeda”. And when it
> wanted to then move to Stage 3 (starting a war and stripping Americans of
> their civil liberties); it lured, or simply hired these (former?) employees
> to be part of the world’s most-infamous false-flag event: “9/11”.
>
> Unequivocally, the War on Terror is nothing more than an imaginary
> construct of the Fourth Reich. Any/all “terrorists” who actually do exist
> in the world today were either created or sponsored by the U.S. government,
> or the other members of this Axis of Evil (U.S./Israel/UK). However the
> police state which was supposedly justified by this mythical war is all
> too-real.
>
> The “Department of Homeland Security” of the Fourth Reich is nothing more
> than the 21st century name for the “Gestapo” of the Third Reich. The only
> difference between the two agencies is that the DHS is much better-armed,
> and has the advantage of 21st century saturation surveillance: the ability
> (and willingness) to spy on anyone, at any time.
>
> The transformation of the U.S. from free democracy to police state only
> became full-and-complete, however, when the Bush regime passed its infamous
> “indefinite detention” law in 2011. Given the already-existing provisions
> of the Patriot Act (which blasted huge holes through the U.S.
> Constitution); “indefinite detention” turned that Constitution into nothing
> more than obsolete confetti.
>
> The “legalities” here (meaning the total lack of legality/legitimacy) are
> simple:
>
> 1)  The U.S. government (or one of its Stooges) points its finger at
> anyone and calls them “a terrorist”.
>
> 2)  Once any individual has had that label affixed to them; they
> immediately/instantly lose not only all of their Constitutional rights, but
> all of their human rights – they become less than human (in the eyes of the
> Fourth Reich).
>
> 3)  The U.S. government is never required to publicly produce evidence to
> prove that someone accused of being “a terrorist” has done anything to
> merit this Ultimate Sanction.
>
> 4) Once the U.S. government demotes someone to a (legal) sub-human by
> labeling him/her “a terrorist”; not only does the Fourth Reich incarcerate
> and torture these individuals, but the Executive Branch now claims the
> power to murder by decree – again, without ever publicly providing evidence
> to support those assassinations.
>
> Here it must be understood that if people (i.e. Americans) can be stripped
> of their rights simply by having the label “terrorist” affixed to them
> (without evidence), then they have no rights. By definition; a “right” is
> something which can never be taken away.
>
> In the former United States of America, now a police state which we can
> characterize as nothing other than “the Fourth Reich”; all of the rights
> which the citizens of this nation used to possess are now mere privileges –
> something which can be taken away from any one of them (completely and
> forever) with one word: “terrorist”. Always without evidence...
>
> ...When will the War on Terror end, given that it is the Fourth Reich
> itself which manufactures most/all of the “terrorism” and “terrorists”?
> Never.
>
> However, while the fascist infrastructure and pseudo-laws of this police
> state are designed to last forever, the economy which provides the
> financial support for the Fourth Reich is already rotten-to-the-core. The
> only thing which has delayed a Soviet Union-style economic implosion to
> this date is financial fraud and the manipulation of markets, on a scale
> beyond the comprehension of any reader who has not been closely following
> these events.
>
> The transformation/militarization of American society into a police state
> is complete. The detention centers are all already built. Complete economic
> collapse is inevitable and imminent. And when that occurs; the first phrase
> which will come out of the mouth of whatever Puppet President is ruling at
> that time is “martial law.”
>
>
> http://bullionbullscanada.com/us-commentary/26559-the-united-states-police-state-today-martial-law-tomorrow-part-ii
>
> -RR
>
>
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References:
- [sparkscoffee] Re: The United States: Police State Today, Martial Law Tomorrow; Part II
  - From: Ron Ristad
[sparkscoffee] Re: The United States: Police State Today, Martial Law Tomorrow; Part II

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