RR and everyone else
It is a horrible, horrible event which we went over before and fortunately I
kept an account
of it. If you are so hot all over again, re-read it in its entirety and try to
keep an open mind
which may be impossible? How about putting some blame on those high up in our
government
who hates Isreal and favores Egypt and wanted them to win for practical money
oil reasons?
Threre is much more to the story then what seems obvious to you.
Stanley - believe it or not I too grieve for the truly innocent sailors
following orders
and the loss of a valuable, expensive tax payer paid ship. Anyone of us could
have been
part of that crew.
-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Ristad <ristad@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: sparkscoffee <sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sun, May 31, 2015 7:14 pm
Subject: [sparkscoffee] Re: Israel is seeking a 50% increase in military ai d
from the US.
President Johnson ordered our troops to stand down during the Israeli attack on
the USS Liberty. He did so for the same reason that Churchill ordered British
troops to stand down after the Israeli terrorist bombing of the headquarters of
the British army at the King David Hotel in Jerusalem in 1946. Never once in
history have Zionists ever been held accountable for the innocent people they
have murdered.
"Aboard the Liberty, 34 U.S. sailors were dead and 171 seriously wounded. Years
later, two Navy veterans gave me details of the verbal exchange when President
Johnson ordered the callback. Radioman Tony Hart, serving at a U.S. radio relay
station in Morocco, listened intently to the entire conversation between
President Johnson and Secretary McNamara in the White House and Admiral Geis at
sea. This is what Hart recalls Secretary McNamara said to Geis, “Get those
planes back on deck.” Geis replied, “But the Liberty is under attack and needs
help.” McNamara shouted, “Get those goddam planes back on deck.” Aghast at the
order, Geis, “Mr. Secretary, I wish to appeal that order to higher authority.”
McNamara said, “I already have the president’s authority to call the planes
back. He is right here.” Hart recalls Johnson then came on the phone and said
to Geis, “I don’t care if the ship goes down, I’m not going to war with an ally
over a couple of sailors.” The stunned admiral said, “Aye, aye, sir.”
Until his death, the admiral agonized over what, despite the presidential
order, he might have done to help the Liberty crew.
Commander Davis told me, “Johnson’s order was probably the first time in
history U.S. military forces were refused permission to help defend a U.S. Navy
ship under attack.” Israeli officials, caught in a premeditated crime against a
U.S. Navy ship, admitted the attackers were Israeli, then falsely claimed the
assault was a case of mistaken identity. What a cruel lie.
Johnson accepted Israel’s lie without protest, although convincing evidence the
assault was deliberate was already available at highest levels of his
administration.
The president quickly dispatched Admiral Isaac C. Kidd and staff to carry
out what from the start was a bogus Court of Inquiry. Before leaving. Kidd was
instructed to issue a finding that cleared Israel of any blame.
http://mycatbirdseat.com/2013/05/paul-findley-speaking-on-45th-anniversary-of-israels-deliberate-attack-on-the-uss-liberty/
-RR
-----Original Message-----
From: "schalestock@xxxxxxxx"
Sent: May 31, 2015 3:03 PM
To: sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [sparkscoffee] Re: Israel is seeking a 50% increase in military ai d
from the US.
I think the real fly in the ointment is that NO ONE in Isreal was ever held
accounable for that atrocity. But I also fault McNamar for his dispicable
cowardice in recalling our planes that were minutes away from defending the
Liberty.
JS
---------- Original Message ----------
From: pixiehat <pixiehat@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [sparkscoffee] Re: Israel is seeking a 50% increase in military aid
from the US.
Date: Sun, 31 May 2015 13:56:07 -0700
Stan, you want to tell me why we should both forget about the war crimes
committed by Israel and reward Israel for committing them? I will never forget
the liberty. Nor will I forgive Israel for what she has done.
Sent from my U.S. Cellular® Tablet
-------- Original message --------
From: dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: 05/31/2015 11:10 AM (GMT-08:00)
To: sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [sparkscoffee] Re: Israel is seeking a 50% increase in military aid
from the US.
Pixiehat
Cant keep going over and over again on this one.
Stan
-----Original Message-----
From: pixiehat <pixiehat@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: sparkscoffee <sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sat, May 30, 2015 3:51 pm
Subject: [sparkscoffee] Re: Israel is seeking a 50% increase in military aid
from the US.
I have a huge problem giving any aid to a nation that attacks our ships in
international waters and murders many of the crew. Go figure.
Sent from my U.S. Cellular® Tablet
-------- Original message --------
From: "D.J.J. Ring, Jr." < n1ea@xxxxxxxx>
Date: 05/30/2015 12:14 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [sparkscoffee] Re: Israel is seeking a 50% increase in military aid
from the US.
Zionists? What do you call people who support USA?
To you, RR, Zionist is a put down, a propaganda word to make Israel different
than any other nation.
So what if Israel $1.5B more money to defend itself.
Remember they are surrounded by nations and peoples who are on the record of
wanting to destroy all of them.
How would you react if all your neighbors swore they'd gun down the Ristad
Family?
Would people who wish to help you be called RRionists?
73
DR
On May 30, 2015 9:57 AM, "Ron Ristad" < ristad@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Under the current contract, Israel receives $3 billion in US taxpayer funds per
year. If Congress approves, the new amount will be $4.5 billion.
http://www.breakingisraelnews.com/41527/israel-asks-us-for-defense-package-middle-east/#6mcheb5mDytOmVA2.97
Meanwhile people in Detroit have lost their jobs and had their water turned off
and the prime minister of Israel is invited by Zionists in the U.S. government
to address Congress and criticize our elected president, which according to our
Constitution is an act of treason.
-RR
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