Sorry Mr. Dictator this goes on the Net and my Bcc list - HIDDEN SPEECH IS NOT
FREE SPEECH
THE DEVIL IS IN THE DETAILS: When anyone of us members posts a msg. on the Net
it only shows
our own email address and that of anyone else's if we included their messages
in our post unless we
deleted their email address which can be done. However it is not our business
to require us to remove
their address, for one thing that person might want feed back plus one of us
might want to respond? It
is up to that outsider to complain to the member who revealed their email
address.
DO YOUR WORST.
Stan the gladiator man
-----Original Message-----
From: D.J.J. Ring, Jr. <n1ea@xxxxxxxx>
To: Sblumen123 <Sblumen123@xxxxxxx>
Sent: Wed, Sep 27, 2017 12:35 am
Subject: OFF LIST Stan: A response to limiting FREE SPEECH
Stan,
You have been doing this for nearly ten months.
Stop it immediately and stop talking about it.
I have reached my limit.
All my other messages were off list to you and Chuck.
I never got even one response until Chuck responded with a "who are you to
threaten Stan" message.
You will stop sending messages through this list and you will stop stop talking
about it or you are going to be moderated.
This means NOW.
You stop talking about this and stop sending non subscribers messages through
this list and everything is OK.
This is my LAST WARNING. Stop it or I will moderate your email to the list.
If you get me angry by non compliance you will be banned from this list.
All I want is for you to stop and stop talking about it. I have no intention
of searching for anything. It will stop NOW.
I don't want to deal with error messages anymore.
73
DR
73
DR
On Sep 26, 2017 15:12, "Redacted sender sblumen123 for DMARC"
<dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
DR
Bull shit about warning me for almost 10 months when we are talking about this
just in the last few days,
Post proof from almost 10 months ago.
Next, why did you wait almost 10 months to bring it up just now in the last few
days?
Is the Net now and always automatically protected from non members posting on
it
without you doing anything?
Explain what you mean moderating?
Answer quick as I must leave in about 20 minutes or else wait till tomorrow
Stan
-----Original Message-----
From: D.J.J. Ring, Jr. <n1ea@xxxxxxxx>
To: sparkscoffee <sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tue, Sep 26, 2017 2:29 pm
Subject: [sparkscoffee] Stan: A response to limiting FREE SPEECH
Stan,
If you want to write me off the list about this, fine, but I have already told
you that I am done with this.
I have been asking you to stop sending mail to Chuck for almost ten months.
My patience is gone.
One more word out of you to the list and you will be moderated.
If you are removed from the list, you are responsible because I have given you
many warnings to STOP.
In any event you don't have an automatic right to say whatever you want under
all circumstances and in all places.
Read the Constitution. It says that Congress shall make no law restricting
freedom of speech. It didn't say that your employer can't restrict what you
say, nor does it say that I have to permit you to go on and on about a subject
I said I am so done with.
I do not want to go around cleaning up YOUR mess. You have no right to cause
me to do work because of your intransigence.
One more word about this and you get moderated.
I've warned you enough.
73
DR
On Sep 26, 2017 1:30 PM, "Redacted sender sblumen123 for DMARC"
<dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
DR
You did not responds to my very recent points posted and you are putting a
heavy restriction
on my free speech which I will not tolerate. Your objections is brand new when
we have
gotten along this way for years and years from the beginning.
The Net you are in charged of is automatically protected from non members
posting on it and
therefore you don't have to do anything when anyone who is not a member tries
to post on it.
Moderating as a first step sounds vague to me and best be careful like being on
a slippery slope
with no coming back.
If you delete me from the Net it will be on your head, not RR's or anyone else.
I will continue posting
like I have been including to my Bcc list and non members like Chuck.
In my non humble opinion the Net needs someone like me to make it interesting
and informative then I
need the Net. My principal focus is on the AMMV and so called Leftists causes.
Stan the Mensch man
-----Original Message-----
From: D.J.J. Ring, Jr. <n1ea@xxxxxxxx>
To: sparkscoffee <sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tue, Sep 26, 2017 12:59 pm
Subject: [sparkscoffee] Re: PROOF BELOW THAT RR HASN'T REALLY BLOCKED ME
Stan,
No more sending messages by BCC when you send them to the sparkscoffee list.
You promise to do that or you get moderated right now.
In addition, if any message from you results is moderation work by me, you
will be removed from this list.
No more discussion on this.
I am so done with this subject.
73
DR
On Sep 26, 2017 12:28, "Redacted sender sblumen123 for DMARC"
<dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
RR & DR
When I send a msg to sparkscoffee I want everyone on the Net to see it plus as
an option I frequently but not always
send the same msg to my Bcc list.
RR sent a msg he was blocking me which he had also done before to DR & me,
which had meant to both of us he
wasn't going to see our posts when he could have easily deleted without reading
it. Why else would he say he is blocking
both of us?
In fact he has been ignoring my posts pretending not to see them until just
recently made the mistake of responding to
one of them?
Also, he sometimes responded to our posts because another member who wan't
blocked repeated our post in their post.
But this time RR responded directly without it being in another member's post.
Do you understand what I am saying?
Stan the misunderstood man
-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Ristad <ristad@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: sparkscoffee <sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tue, Sep 26, 2017 9:55 am
Subject: [sparkscoffee] Re: PROOF BELOW THAT RR HASN'T REALLY BLOCKED ME
Stan,
It is very simple. Instead of using To: or Cc: to address your emails to
several adresses use Bcc: when one of the addresses is this group.
When you do that people who reply to your emails will reply to only to and not
to this list as well, because if they reply to this list it gets blocked
because they are not a member of the list and this makes more work for DR.
Use Bcc: , not To: or Cc: Got it? End of discussion.
-RR
-----Original Message-----
From: "D.J.J. Ring, Jr."
Sent: Sep 26, 2017 6:56 AM
To: sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [sparkscoffee] Re: PROOF BELOW THAT RR HASN'T REALLY BLOCKED ME
Do you understand the problem now?
3. All of a sudden you have come up with Moderator, Error Messages, Messes,
Clean Up, terms we never heard of before?
I understand that a non-member is not allowed to post on our net but
members can post messages from from non-members
to explain our points and even other's points of view which RR does all the
time.and that is free speech for the benefit of all.
Whats the mess and where is the damage?
The problem comes when you address another person who is not a member of the
email list.
When that person responds, moderators receive messages that the message will be
held pending moderation by the moderators.
This happens for each such message.
I don't like doing this especially when I have been asking you to STOP doing
this.
This subject is closed, I am not going to discuss it further, if you continue
this subject after I have repeatedly replied to you privately and publicly, I
will moderate you so that your email no longer posts automatically to this
list.
Can't you understand that I have been dealing with your doing this for almost
ten months? I am done with this.
73
DR
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