Hey SMEE, Welcome back first of all to Steve and Heather. It was great to see them in! Also, great to have Vic and Jo back. There were times I was thinking...in a situation like this...somehow, Rhys WOULDN"T DIE!!! HOW, when even the enchanter dies? I'd like to say once again how great paladins are. I was able to start off level 60 with ALL of my spells thanks to the paladial efforts of Kirnak and Swayze who not only spotted the final component I needed for Speed of the Brood, but dickered them down by three thousand!!! Awesome, and for those ofyou who don't know by now, it is a group spell version of the enchanter epic... ...which brings me to the next topic. My epic. As most of you know, I bumbled into a raid, thanks to Bear and picked up the most difficult item forthe enchanter epic: the head of a prince from Chardok. So, I will be doing some prep and some of the easier parts. Most of the rest is SMEE do-able and if I am ready, I will ask for a short side-trip or two, possibly on Sun. as well. Lastly, I favor killing hobgoblins and goin for mephits. I think with full SMEE we can take that stupid tunnel! (Ent has this perillium as well.) However, I also support Barry's plan of heading to Kael to work the plate cycle. This would still be very challenging for us with all named for adversaries. It also gives us a chance to work some new Bard-Enchanter charming tecniques (read TPW if you like). As a 60 ench, most only think of KEI (woohoo!), but Dictate (fixed duration charm of 48 sec) will be an awesome addition to our tactics. My suggestion is: Kedge, Chanter epic battle (if ready), Kael. Then if Kaelnets some drops or proves dull, switch to Hobs for a bit at the end. If not, then start off with Hobs next week. That's all I've got, except, did I mention anything about paladins? Entropilatus "KEI" Erebus ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Send instant messages to anyone on your contact list with MSN Messenger 6.0. Try it now FREE! [1] --- Links --- 1 http://g.msn.com/8HMBENUS/2737??PS=