[smartdoctor] poljski doktori u zatvor radi potrošnje lijekova
- From: "BARI" <bari.sita@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <smartdoctor@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 11:35:13 +0100
From: smartdoctor-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:smartdoctor-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tanja Pekez-Pavliško
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 10:51 PM
To: smartdoctor@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [smartdoctor] Poljska - ponovo
Ne znam tko koga kopira!!!
<http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001274347586> Marek Oleszczyk
Happy New Chaos in Polish health care system (again!) Since yesterday we
struggle with new drug reimbursment law. At the end of 2011 patients were
buing out drugs in pharmacies
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Today we don't know how to prescribe drugs. Doctors might be punished with
high financial fees and up to 8 years of imprisonment when mistaken in
reimbursmet regulations!
Wish you were here!
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Tanja,sve je to pod istom dirigentskom palicom.Najprije su oni na vlasti(u
svim" banana" zemljama,a i manje bananastima )davali da BIG farma kroji
zdravstvenu politiku i propagira "žderanje"lijekova, korištenje ort.pomagala
za bezvezarije... itd...(naravno,dok su svi od toga imali ogromne osobne
koristi),a kad nema novaca kaznu će plaćati(ili ići u zatvor) oni koji su na
tu politiku imali najmanje utjecaja...Naravno da će opinion makeri koji rade
za big farmu( i izmišljavaju i propagiraju nepostojeće bolesti i potrebe)
ponovo proći nekažnjeno-ako im se to dozvoli...
Npr-najprije daš pacijentima toliko antidepresiva i sedativa (po
novome-antipsihotika i antiepileptika) za najobičniju depresiju,koju naravno
ne znam tko nema;tako da dobiju jedno dvadesetak kila viška,cijele dane
spavaju i noću od debljine i razine sedativa zaborave disati(malo su
apnoični)-onda ih pošalješ u centar za poremećaje spavanja i utvrdiš noćne
apneje pa im dodijeliš aparat da ne budu apnoični.Naravno paralelno osnuješ
udrugu za "odgovarajuću bolest"-tako da pacijenti već prije prije doktora
znaju zatražiti rješenja za svoje probleme(koje su sami ili uz pomoć
opinion makera stekli).Cijena"spavajućeg" aparata-od 500 do 3500
dolara,uglavnom oko 1500 dolara.
Ovo s Poljacima-taman kad pomisliš da gore ne može.Ne namjeravam platiti
niti lipe za potrošnju na koju nemam utjecaja...Ako mi desetljećima
odgovorno trošimo naše glavarine(i nitko nije u minusu)-neka se zdravstvena
blagajna osvijesti u trošenju sredstava za lijekove i pomagala pa neka
obavijesti svoje osiguranike za što ima a za što nema novaca...Mene neka
puste na miru,jer inače ni ja njih neću pustiti na miru...Ići će svaki dan
na kontrolu u SKZ...Ida
Ako niste mislili da je apneja tako veliki problem...Varate se...Veličina
zdravstvenog problema proporcionalna je prihodima od zdravstvenog problema.
Apnejom se npr. bave svi...HČJZ...Forumi...Zdrava krava..Liječnički
vijesnik..Javna tribina udruge Apneja....Psihologijski portal-nesanica
uništava brakove....Jeste li primijetili da se radi istinskih poremećaja
zdravlja vode tako proaktivne kampanje ???
Samo ne znam tko će ići u zatvor radi propisivanja aparata "mimo
smjernica"...S obzirom da su kazne uglavnom u domeni PZZ-a,a "apnoične
aparate" još ne odobravamo MI...čudno...
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Apneja i njen utjecaj na zdravlje
Apneja u snu povezana je s noćnim mokrenjem u muškaraca, objavljeno je na
.... Radmila Buljan, dr. med., spec. psihijatrije Centar za poremećaje
spavanja, ...
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fg%3D%3D&ct=AR&tpr=sbt> Dijagnostika - zdravstvene ustanove - Udruga Apneja
Ustanove u kojima se može vršiti pregled: Klinika za psihijatriju
Vrapče-Zagreb Centar za poremečaj spavanja tel. 01/ 3780 714 ...
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jw%3D%3D&ct=AR&tpr=sbt> Što je apneja u spavanju? - HČJZ - Hrvatski časopis
za javno ...
7 sij 2010 ... "Apneja u spavanju", ili "sleep apneja", je naziv za bolest
koja se manifestira kao ... Bolnica Vrapče Centar za poremećaj spavanja,
Zagreb ...
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wGIdgGQmOVRU3c9IFYlhHbpbnp2nc%3D&ct=AR&tpr=sbt> Broj: 3-4
Apneja tijekom spavanja poremećaj je disanja koji karakteriziraju zastoj
disanja .... smetnji spavanja upućeni su u Centar za poremećaje spavanja
Psihijatrijske ...
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rA%3D%3D&ct=AR&tpr=sbt> Apneja [Tekst verzija] - Forum.hr
Ima li netko problema s apnejom?Ja sam bila na polisomnigrafskom snimanju (
to ti prate spavanje u Centru za poremećaje spavanja ) zato sto ...
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1LkD8XqZkwkeSbShAcLnY%3D&ct=AR&tpr=sbt> Kako spriječiti nesanicu? - Zdrava
krava
9 lip 2010 ... Pavao Krmpotić, voditelj Centra za poremećaje spavanja u ...
Također je čest sindrom apneja u spavanju, poremećaj koji nastaje zbog
gušenja ...
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uništava brakove - Psihologijski portal - www.PSIHOportal ...
Bilo je inicijativa kolega iz Centra za poremećaje spavanje Psihijatrijske
... u zapadnom svijetu jest apneja tj. prekid disanja za vrijeme spavanja
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- Aktualno - Vijesti : KUZ.hr
11 ožu 2011 ... udruga Apneja poziva Vas na javnu tribinu s temom:
"Poremećaji ... Centar za poremećaje spavanja - Klinika za psihijatriju
Vrapče, Zagreb ...
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Apneja - Description: Poštovani posjetioci, ovu stranicu smo postavili u
namjeri da ... Klinika za psihijatriju Vrapče-Zagreb Centar za poremečaj
spavanja tel. ...
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t=AR&tpr=sbt> Poremećaji spavanja i sna - ORCA, stambeno poslovni centar,
Mostar.
Parasomnije * Sindromi sleep apneje * Hipersomnija * Insomnija (nesanica) *
Sindrom nemirnih nogu. Psihološki problemi i poremećaji - Poremećaji
spavanja i ...
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AUTO-CPAP Q SERIES Philips-Respironics
Na žalost, neki bolesnici ne podnose CPAP. (ali to saznaju nakon što ga je
Hazo platio ...)
Osnovne mjere izbjegavanja apneje postaju dodatne - naravno da ne koštaju
ništa ,samo je potrebno malo više odricanja i samodiscipline...Ali tko će se
toga prihvatiti kad nam opinion makeri daju gotova rješenja..bez imalo
truda....Ali ona koštaju......Pogon za distribuciju aparata u Vrapču je pun
i zauzet do petog mjeseca iduće godine...
DODATNE MJERE I POSTUPCI U ZBRINJAVANJU APNEJE
1. Redukcija tjelesne težine, po potrebi i bolnički kontrolirana
2. Izbjegavanje tableta za spavanje, alkohola, gaziranih pića i nikotina.
3. Izbjegavanje spavanja na leđima, korištenje bočnog položaja
4. Održavanje prohodnosti nosa -inhalacija slanih otopina ili kratkotrajno
nosni dekongestivi.
UDRUGA APNEJA
Samobor ,Trg A. Mihanovića br.4
telefon: 01 3365 179 01 3365 179
fax: 01 3365 179 01 3365 179
mob: 091 3365 179 091 3365 179
BROŠURU IZDAO:
KBC Zagreb Klinika Jordanovac
Laboratorij za dijagnostiku poremećaja disanja u spavanja
Dr. B. Sever
m.s. Andreja Šajnić
PRILAGODIO ZA WEB STRANICU
Neven Ribarić
<http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001274347586> Marek Oleszczyk
Happy New Chaos in Polish health care system (again!) Since yesterday we
struggle with new drug reimbursment law. At the end of 2011 patients were
buing out drugs in pharmacies
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Today we don't know how to prescribe drugs. Doctors might be punished with
high financial fees and up to 8 years of imprisonment when mistaken in
reimbursmet regulations!
Wish you were here!
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