Hi, We're evaluating the performance of our TDR probe to determine if it can be used in VNA measurement. Here is some observations: 1. Although in most people's opinion the contact quality of probe is far less reliable & trustable compared to SMA, based on my experience, it's feasible to achieve a stable contact with probe, at least for the bandwidth up to 20GHz. 2. Besides measuring the sparam of the tline or other components on PCB without the trouble of fabricating the test fixture, another benefit of directly probing is the masking effect due to the fanout traces on the fixture is avoided-more details will be shown on the TDR profile. 3. Experiments showed that the contact of ground collar on the TDR probe can reduce the inductive peak at the very beginning of the TDR curve. It seems the ground conductor must be surrounding the signal - a single ground wire won't have much effect. 4. The deembeding of the probe is challenging - lots of glitches appeared on the deembedded sparam. We're still working on that trying to find out the best method. I would appreciate if you can share your experience with using TDR probe either for TDR measurement, or for sparam measurement. Best Regards, Sherman Chen Signal Integrity EMC Global Hardware Engineering Tel: +86 21 60951100-3329 ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List forum is accessible at: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu