I am not sure I can explain it correctly, but the way I understand it is that a causal system is where the reaction happens after an action. In other words, the output at time t0 only depends on the input at t0 or before. There is a mathematical requirements to be fulfilled for a causal system, but I don't remember it by heart :D. It can also be that the S-par of your passive system is not passive. Solution? It is a tricky question. My experience with Ansoft tools e.g. HFSS, it gives a very accurate S-parameter, however, often non-passive (never checked the causality). You can try to generate broadband spice out of your S-par using many commercial tools such as sonnet, sigrity, ADS, etc. regards, Saoer Mohamad Haghtalab wrote: > it's transient simulation,the s parameter model contain 0 Hz > data(matrix),but what's non-causal S-param?,what's the solution? > > regards > > --- On *Mon, 9/8/08, Saoer Sinaga /<saoer.sinaga@xxxxxxxxx>/* wrote: > > From: Saoer Sinaga <saoer.sinaga@xxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: simulation in Nexxim > To: "'SI LIST'" <si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Date: Monday, September 8, 2008, 10:39 PM > > Is it a frequency domain simulation or transient simulation. The causes > are likely to be non-causal S-par and/or no DC data in your S-par. > > saoer > > Mohamad Haghtalab wrote: > > > > Hi all > > I have a design in Nexxim(ansoft designer) in which there is both > S-parameter and Spice models blocks,s parameter blocks all have one port > named > 'ref ' ,I connect all these ports to ground in shematic,if all models > were S parameter when simulating the design we dont have any error ,but > if we > add a spice model (e.g. LNA model) we have error in simulation > > (DC continuation...),the problem seems to be the refrence of spice > model(?),can you help me about that? > > > > Regards > > > > Haghtalab > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from si-list: > > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject > field > > > > or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: > > //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list > > > > For help: > > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field > > > > > > List technical documents are available at: > > http://www.si-list.net > > > > List archives are viewable at: > > //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list > > or at our remote archives: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages > > Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: > > http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > To unsubscribe from si-list: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field > > or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: > //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list > > For help: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field > > > List technical documents are available at: > http://www.si-list.net > > List archives are viewable at: > //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list > or at our remote archives: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages > Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: > http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu