[SI-LIST] Re: negative propagation delay

  • From: art_porter@xxxxxxxxxxx
  • To: perry.qu@xxxxxxxxxxx, si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 14:52:06 -0600

Hey, if you can build enough of those negative delay buffers in series, we can 
watch next week's football game and bet on the winners.

-----Original Message-----
From: Perry Qu [mailto:perry.qu@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 1:03 PM
To: si-list
Subject: [SI-LIST] negative propagation delay


Hi,

I'm using ICX for SI/timing analysis. One thing I noticed, if a driver
IBIS specified a large reference load (e.g., 50pF for uP), I will always
end up with a negative propagation delay since my actual loading is much
smaller compared with reference load.

Would like to understand how I should correct the number to reflect my
actual loading for timing analysis. I would think we can get the
internal logic delay of driver through: (Tco - time_to_Vmeas@reference
load); But then, how shall I add buffer delay for a real load and
propagation delay for a real load--taking into account all the
reflection effect (e.g., a daisy-chained bi-directional data bus).

Thanks

Perry

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