[SI-LIST] Re: ibis limitations

  • From: Scott McMorrow <scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: kalgudo@xxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 16:05:12 -0700

Kal,

An IBIS model will model a the driver characteristics of a 3 gig 
differential pair driver, if that driver is modeled well by the model 
supplier, if that driver does not have preemphesis, and if that model 
does not have a package.

IBIS cannot currently handle drivers with preemphesis and is very poor 
at modeling packages. You will have significant divergence from reality 
if you use an IBIS package model in a 3 gig differential simulation.

The solutions is generally to use Spice to model your 3 Gig devices.

Regards,

Scott

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Teraspeed Consulting Group LLC
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http://www.teraspeed.com



kal ansari wrote:

>Hi all,
>
>I would like to get some opinions from you guys on the limitation with IBIS 
>models 
>
>in regards to signal bandwidth.  If I have a driver running around 3 Gbps with 
>a rise time
>
>around 70 ps, will an IBIS model for this make sense? What is the current 
>highest frequeny
>
>that IBIS accurately supports.   A lot of the EDA tools run with just IBIS, if 
>IBIS models
>
>are not accurate at these speeds, what is the solution?
>
>Thanks,
>
>gudo
>
>
>
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