Try again... Arpad =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=20 -----Original Message----- From: Muranyi, Arpad=20 Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 7:54 AM To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: [SI-LIST] how tables (waveform/pullup/down etc..) in a IBIS files are used/interpeted by IBIS simulators=20 Sudhansu, The question you are asking about how the various tables are interpreted by each tool vendor is hard to answer because each vendor may have their own algorithms. To gain some insight on what may be happening, you can look at some of my presentations in which I explained the basic two equations two unknowns algorithm: http://www.vhdl.org/pub/ibis/summits/jun03b/muranyi1.pdf There are other articles written on the subject, such as: Extraction of Transient Behavioral Model of Digital I/O Buffers from IBIS Peivand F. Tehrani, Yuzhe Chen, Jiayuan Fang Department of Electrical Engineering State University of New York at Binghamton The Development of Analog SPICE Behavioral Model Based on IBIS Model Ying Wang, Han Ngee Tan School of EEE, Nanyang Technological University, Singapore 639798 E-mail: p143278083@xxxxxxxxxx A Novel Extraction Method of Analog SPICE Behavioral Model from IBIS Model Hwan-Mok Jung, Chang-Gene Woo, Pyung Choi, Jong-Hwa Kwon, Jae-Hoon Yun Kyungpook National University, Electronics and Telecommunications Research Institutes Kyungpook Nat'l Univ. School of Electronic & Electric Eng., 1370 Sankyuk-dong, Puk-ku, Taegu, 702-701, S.KOREA Tel: +82-53-940-8656, Fax: +82-53-950-5505 E-mail: hmjung@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx I am not sure I understand your last question, but IBIS models are used extensively for SI simulations to verity most if not all design questions that are related to SI. I hope this helps, Arpad =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=20 -----Original Message----- From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Sudhanshu SINGH Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 4:58 AM To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [SI-LIST] how tables (waveform/pullup/down etc..) in a IBIS files are used/interpeted by IBIS simulators=20 Hello all, I have tried to search for some queries in IBIS modeling cookbook(ver = =3D 4.0). But the details are not very exhaustive inside. Can anyone tell or provide some document reference to the following =3D points=3D20 =3D20 -Interpretation of IBIS file tables =3D (waveform/pullup/down/clamp/ramp/vinl/vinh etc..) by different simulators(Hspice/Hyperlynx/Eldo). i.e. How simulators use these table to generate output waveform = for=3D20 a given device of IBIS models. -What all SI parameters are validated from IBIS Models ?? This will in general be of help to all new IBIS learners. Thanks in advance, Regards, sudhanshu ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net List archives are viewable at: =20 //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu =20 ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu