[SI-LIST] Re: about capacitor on hdi board

  • From: steve weir <weirsi@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: AAA????? <sky_of_bj@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 08:14:12 -0700

Yes, inductance is of an entire loop. For convenience of analysis the 
loop is often broken into components. The effective inductance of the 
capacitor to the PDN is the loop that includes the interconnect to the 
rest of the PDN, ( or at least where you are measuring ), and the 
physical capacitor structure. This presentation from my web site 
explains the physics. 
http://www.ipblox.com/pubs/SVCEMC_Feb_2006/stack_up_vias_pdn_public.pdf 
The chart on page 23 should help you.

Steve.
AAA????? wrote:
> Hi All,
>    a power net on  hdi board ,I find that the 100nf capacitor 's(only one 
> capacitor) resonance frequecy (the capacitor package is 0201)is 38Mhz(test 
> S21 by VNA), rather higher than its normal resonance frequecy 18Mhz(if not 
> consider the parasitic inductor on the pcb borad). 
>
> Does the pcb board impact the capacitor and  the esl of the capacitor become 
> smaller?
>
>
> Can anybody help me in solving this?
>
> Regards,
> sky_of_bj
>
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