Jim Antonellis - This is a guess, but I think you might have some luck if you check into Teradyne. I have seen a table in Howard Johnson's new book that seems related to your picture that was from Teradyne (Table 5.9). It is referenced in his book as; Teradyne, "Design Considerations for Gigabit Backplane Systems". regards, Jim Peterson Honeywell -----Original Message----- From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ray Anderson Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 2:09 PM To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Cc: janton@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; Ray Anderson Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: Variations in TDR from Via Tuning The image Jim is inquiring about can be seen at the following URL:=20 http://si-list.org/files/tech_files/Via-Tuning.jpg -Ray -----Original Message----- From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim Antonellis Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 8:31 AM To: Si-List Subject: [SI-LIST] Variations in TDR from Via Tuning Hello, I have a jpeg image showing the difference in TDR profiles between a standard through hole via, pads removed, backdrilled and pad/antipad tuning. A small color diagram showing the PCB and via cross sections is also in the figure. I consider it qualitative and not absolutely quantitative=20 (regardless of axis units being present) given that more of the analysis details are missing; none-the-less, it is a very good visual to convey the overall theme. I would like to use this image and as such I am trying to locate the source but my attempts to do so via (no pun intended) google have been in vain. Does anyone recognize, from my desription, this jpeg image, and most importantly know of it's=20 source? I will upload the jpeg to the download area as soon as I figure out how to do so (feel free to send me the instructions as I did not see them on the page http://www.si-list.org) Regards, Jim - Jim Antonellis janton@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sandburst Corp www.sandburst.com Office: 978.689.1669=20 Cell: 978.618.4745 This message and any attachments are Confidential and may be Legally Privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not=20 the intended recipient, please delete this message from your system=20 and notify us immediately. Any dis-closure, copying, distribution or=20 action taken or omitted to be taken by an unintended recipient in=20 reliance on this message is prohibited and may be unlawful. =20 =20 ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List FAQ wiki page is located at: http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Si-List_FAQ List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.org List archives are viewable at: =20 //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu =20 ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List FAQ wiki page is located at: http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Si-List_FAQ List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.org List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List FAQ wiki page is located at: http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Si-List_FAQ List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.org List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu