Hello Linda I had a similar problem, Instead there are two things I think you could do 1) There is a tool called LMG in cadence that generates the RLCG matrix for a given geometry. So take the geometry from your WLINE model plug it into this tool and it will give you the corresponding RLGC values. Than you should highlight "use external model file" in the MTLINE dialog box. Once that is done you have to plug that file generated by this tool that has the RLGC matrix into your MTLINE model.It looks like the MTLINE can only understand that and not the wline model directly. 2) You can look at the in the Spectre RF documentation under the heading "Modeling transmission lines" they give you a step by step procedure on how to use this tool do the simulations.Once thats done you can compare the frequency response of you wline model and this model generated by LMG to confirm . Also be sure to plug in the loss tangent values correctly. You could also use a 2D solver to compare the results. I found this tool very good and the results obtained were comparable to the wline model.hope this helps srivats --- Linda Zhang <lindazhang_si@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Hi all, Does anyone know how to use W-element model (generated from Apsim RLGC) in Cadnece Spectre. I tried using 'mtline', but I am not sure what format the 'RLGC data file' should be. I can put in the numbers of 'R/L/G/C matrix per unit length' manually. It runs but the result is strange. I don't know if I can trust it. Did anyone use it before? Thank you in advance. Linda _________________________________________________________________ Don�t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List FAQ wiki page is located at: http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Si-List_FAQ List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.org List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu -- P.Srivatsan Graduate Student ECE Dept,North Carolina State University http://www4.ncsu.edu/~spartha2/ -- I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious. AE --------------------------------- Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List FAQ wiki page is located at: http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Si-List_FAQ List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.org List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu