[SI-LIST] Re: Telephone Circuit EMC issues

  • From: Bill Wurst <billw@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: Saril <saril_k@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2009 16:01:01 -0500

Saril,

You haven't provided much information to go on.  If I understand your 
problem correctly, you have a conducted emissions problem which I'm 
assuming is measured at the power Line Impedance Stabilization Network 
(LISN).  Then, when you connect the telephone line the conducted power 
emissions increase.

I can only guess, but my hunch is that conducted emissions on the 
telephone line are radiating and being picked up by the power cord.  You 
might try re-arranging the telephone cord to see if that has an effect. 
  I doubt that the filter capacitors on the Tip & Ring could increase 
the common-mode noise on the digital side, but if not implemented 
properly (noisy ground connection and so forth) could certainly increase 
conducted emissions on the telephone line.

Hope this helps.

Regards,
     -Bill

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Saril wrote:
> Hi All,
> I'm working on a dial up modem board. There are some conducted emissions. I 
> have to do some wrok around to get it suppressed. 
> we have two capacitors (0.1uF)Â as shown below, connected from the TIP and 
> RING to the Digital ground. 
> Â 
> TIPÂ Â ------------------------
> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â  |
> Â Â Â  Â Â Â  |
> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â  _ C1
> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â  |Â Â Â  Â Â Â  0 Ohm Res
> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â --------^^^^--------- DIG_GROUND 
> Â Â Â  Â Â Â  |
> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â  _ C2
> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â  |
> Â Â Â  Â Â Â  |
> RING ------------------------
> 
> 
> These capactiors are provided as per the modem chip vendors advice. when the 
> telephone line is connected to the modem the emissions seems to be 
> increasing. 
> Â 
> Does this capactors have any role on increasing the common mode noise on the 
> digital side and causing the emmission to aggravate. 
> Â 
> Thanks in advance.
> Â 
> Regards,
> Saril Kaiprath
> Hardware Design Engineer
> 
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