[SI-LIST] Re: Slew Rate Calculation
- From: "Tom Dagostino" <tom@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <arjun.bingipur@xxxxxxxxxx>, <si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 00:44:12 -0800
I can think of a few:
Unmatched termination -> SI issues
Stronger load -> lower voltage swing
More current -> higher power dissipation
More current -> more power supply noise
Faster slew rate -> more radiation
Faster slew rate -> more crosstalk
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Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: Slew Rate Calculation
Sorry, a typo. It is DDR2.
Micron recommends a differential termination in the range of 100-120 =
ohms
between the clock pairs, which will yield a high slew rate. Probably =
because
of the small load. But, my optimal slew rate is achieved by tweaking the
termination to around 33-35 ohms in the simulation. Does this in any way
influence the performance?
Regards,
Arjun Bingipur
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Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: Slew Rate Calculation
Should it be DDR2?
It seems that the loading is too small, have you checked the model you =
used?
like package, C_comp...
On 11/25/06, Bingipur, Arjun <arjun.bingipur@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm doing a static timing analysis for determining the slew rate for
the
> differential clock signals of a DDR. When I do a slew rate derating=20
> calculation on the eye diagram, I end up with values of around 6V/ns
and
> I 'm unable to consider this value to compare with the address/command =
> derating values to arrive at the correct setup and hold time values in =
> the data sheet.
>
> The topology is such that a controller is driving a single DDR with a=20
> differential termination of 120 ohm connected close to the receiver
IC.
> Am I missing something here?
>
> Regards,
> Arjun Bingipur
>
>
>
>
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