[SI-LIST] Re: Signal Integrity Manager Position at AMD -- Austin, TX
- From: "Jon Powell" <jonpowell@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <Ken.Cantrell@xxxxxxxxxxx>, <james.f.peterson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>,<dpriyawrat@xxxxxxxxx>, <si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 08:38:08 -0700
AMD does tells no lies to interviewees and they are extremely honest over
the phone. I see nothing wrong with a little poetry coming from a person who
really believes in what he does. Actually it is a little refreshing. Lighten
up. If you knew Jonathan at all you would appreciate the love and work that
went into his message.
take care all,
jon
-----Original Message-----
From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Ken Cantrell
Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 8:31 AM
To: james.f.peterson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; dpriyawrat@xxxxxxxxx;
si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: Signal Integrity Manager Position at AMD --
Austin, TX
All,
As a manager, I find it hard to believe that one cannot post a specific job,
and interview and hire for that same position. I suggest that Dowling take
his incoherent ramblings elsewhere, instead of impuning the integrity of the
list.
Ken
-----Original Message-----
From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Peterson, James F
(FL51)
Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2003 5:21 AM
To: dpriyawrat@xxxxxxxxx; si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: Signal Integrity Manager Position at AMD --
Austin, TX
This is a classic example of why companies need to be brutally honest with
potential employees.
I believe it is the responsibility of the engineer conducting the interview
to lead this. Next time you interview an engineer for a position at your
company, tell them about the good things (absolutely), but also the bad or
ordinary, and try to give them a realistic view of what they can expect
when/if they start working there.
The last thing you want is an engineer who moved his or her family 2000
miles, just started working a month ago, and is miserable. You've done this
person and your company a disservice.
-----Original Message-----
From: Priyawrat Dewasthalee [mailto:dpriyawrat@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 11:07 PM
To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: Signal Integrity Manager Position at AMD --
Austin, TX
Thanks Ray/ Dear all,
A gentle reminder
-----------------
About three years ago, Jonathan Dowling had put a similar mail for a junior
SI position on the list to which I had applied. I was subsequently
interviewed and selected by him for the same.
When I left my job in India and joined AMD at Austin, on the very first day
he told me -
1. I will not be working in the SI related work with him,
2. he doesn't have the authority to change this decision as he is not a
manager, and
3. he is still in the process of gathering the "critical mass".
I ended up working on the board level characterization of the system bus on
the then new Athelon 1GHz processor. And although I enjoyed (in fact feel
rewarded) working with guys like Chris Tressler, Jaime Juarez et al, that
was not what I intended to make my career in. I left AMD in 3 months and
returned to India. I refused all offers from AMD-HR immediately after that.
To his credit, Jonathan raised this issue time and again at informal
luncheons (and perhaps at official levels). There are several other
characters associated with this episode but the core of the matter is as
above. To date, I do not doubt Jonathan's intent and he remains a respect
worthy guy for me.
Looking back, it is obvious to me that Jonathan got carried away while
putting up the ad when he was not a manager. I in turn blundered by jumping
without checking out all the necessary facts. "Hey man, you know what! I am
joining AMD!!" :) That was a mistake we both made.
Of course, I ended up paying a heavy price for/since that mistake - the next
hiring manager, naturally, discredits me and not AMD for a short stint. The
episode has left me skeptical if not paranoid. I have learnt my lessons, and
thus am disappointed to see this fresh advert from Jonathan/AMD with all its
grandeur.
The intent of this mail is not to complain or something. I hope this e-mail
helps in bringing both, the advertisers and the respondents, back to reality
and hopefully prevents further casualties.
I am also putting an end to this thread from my side.
Best regards,
- Priyawrat
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Priyawrat Dewasthalee
Technical Lead
ZiLOG India Electronics Private Limited.
Bangalore - 560 001.
Ph. 226-9405 ext.130
e-mail: dpriyawrat@xxxxxxxxx, prdewa@xxxxxxxxxxx
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-----Original Message-----
From: Ray Anderson [mailto:Raymond.Anderson@xxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 21:46
To: dpriyawrat@xxxxxxxxx
Cc: raymond.anderson@xxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [SI-LIST] Signal Integrity Manager Position at AMD --
Austin, TX
Priyawrat-
Sounds like you were the victim of an unfortunate set of circumstances.
Your message is well worded and doesn't present any personal attacks
or accusations.
If you want to post your message to si-list I've no objection.
-Ray
>From: Priyawrat Dewasthalee <dpriyawrat@xxxxxxxxx>
>To: "'Raymond.Anderson@xxxxxxx'" <Raymond.Anderson@xxxxxxx>
>Subject: RE: [SI-LIST] Signal Integrity Manager Position at AMD -- Austin,
TX
>Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 01:31:05 -0600
>MIME-Version: 1.0
>
>Hi Ray (si-list admin),
>
>Although non-technical, I think the following e-mail is important.
>Kindly forward it to the list if you consider it is okay.
>
>thanks,
>- Priyawrat
>- si-list member
>===========================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: Jonathan Dowling [mailto:jdowlin2@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 03:17
To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: jonathan.dowling@xxxxxxx
Subject: [SI-LIST] Signal Integrity Manager Position at AMD -- Austin,
TX
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JOB OPENING: Advanced Micro Devices
LOCATION: Austin, TX
POSITION: Signal Integrity Design Manager
LEVEL: 10+ years experience
TITLE: Senior Member of Technical Staff
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