[SI-LIST] Re: Serpentine patterns for length matching

  • From: wolfgang.maichen@xxxxxxxxxxxx
  • To: otter30@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 12:56:14 -0700

Jim,
parasitic inductance of the bends is a secondary effect with typical trace 
dimensions (<20mil trace width). What is more of a concern is the tight 
spacing you mention, which will cause significant crosstalk. The main 
effect of that will be that your actual delay through the serpentine will 
be LESS than what you'd expect given the geometric line length, dielectric 
constant etc. A simple picture is to think of part of the signal taking a 
shortcut hopping straight from segment to segment instead of following the 
trace. A closer investigation shows that in addition this also causes 
distortion of the output waveform, which is another undesired effect. 

Secondary corrections are current crowding at the in side if the bend 
(again lowering the prop delay) etc., but first you want to get the basic 
layout right.

To reduce the effect of the bends (which each adds a small amount of 
parasitic capacitance, and if there are many bends even small 
contributions can add up), simply use two 45 degree bends instead of a 
single 90 degree bend, that gives you most of the necessary correction 
without the need to do any simulation.

The simplest way to correct your layout is to require a spacing of about 
3x the line width for striplines, or 5 - 6x the line width for surface 
microstrips. This effecteively reduces crosstalk to well below 1%.

If out of some reason you absolutely can't increase the line-to-line 
spacing, at least make each line segment shorter that about 1/6th of your 
signal rise time to minimize signal distortion. In this case you'll need 
to use a 2.5D or 3D field solver to figure out how much your delay is 
reduced and then correct for that by adding more trace length. 
(Alternatively, manufacture a small test board with a single serpentine 
line, measure its delay and thus determine the correction factor 
experimentally).

Wolfgang







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Hello,
Does anyone know of general guidelines for the serpentine patterns used to 
match net lengths?

We have a board with lots of diff pairs, and our board designer made the 
serpentines very
tight. The separation between the adjacent bends of a pair is the same as 
the spacing of the 
traces in the pairs themselves. This seems to imply imedance variations if 
the trace widths 
don't change in the bends.

Any insights would be greatly appreciated,
Jim 


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