[SI-LIST] Re: SI Intro for your review (If you need support on High Speed Design and Signal Integrity)
- From: Craig.Sullivan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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- Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 06:59:11 -0500
In my opinion, this is a sorely beaten dead horse.... We get the point...
Please move on
Craig
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From: jim freeman [mailto:kacief@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 11:09 PM
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Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: SI Intro for your review (If you need support on High
Speed Design and Signal Integrity)
Hi Arpad,
You sound like the Japanese discusing American workers in the 70's. They
said that they were superior because all of the American workers were lazy
and the Japanese worker was industrious.
Thanks
Jim Freeman
"Muranyi, Arpad" wrote:
> While the statement (below) may be true in some situations, it is not
> = true in general. The economic situation of different countries can
> cause = huge
> differences in the price range of products and labor. For that reason =
> we
> cannot conclude that everything that is not expensive must be low =
> quality.
> Price is relative.
>
> This is especially true for the knowledge level of students graduating
> from the schools of less wealthy countries. It is not a secret that
> the US, the richest country in the world has serious problems with its
> educational system. However, many of these problems are not
> necessarily due to the availability of funds for education, a lot is
> due to the = moral our young people have (or don't have...). Richness
> can result in = laziness,
> disinterest, etc... I am not going to expand on this any further, =
> because
> I am not an expert in psychology, I am just trying to make a point that
> there may be engineers in other countries who are sharper than some of =
> our
> local engineers are, even if they work for less money (in their =
> respective
> homes, or here in the US - but this is a different subject - if you know
> what I mean).
>
> What we are really up against is a totally different problem. The
> kind = that is related to Martin Euredjian's posting. The need for
> survival, and/or greed (hunger for more) can cause companies (and
> people) to do bad = things.
> As soon as one begins to "cheat" in order to get ahead, the rest will =
> have
> to do the same in order to "remain competitive". The problem is that =
> some
> times the difference between using "tricks" and "cheating" is not =
> obvious.
> In fact, things that are "bad" for a certain group of society can be =
> "good"
> for another. Making products abroad could be good for those who can buy =
> them
> cheaper, it is good for the workers of the countries where it is made, =
> it
> is good for the investors and owners of the company, but it is bad for
> those who lose their jobs. Whether this is a good strategic trick or
> cheating is in the eye of the beholder... Because of this it is hard to
> make rules, laws for controlling all this, welcome to politics...
>
> Wouldn't it be nice if we could only do things that are good for =
> everyone instead of only good for ourselves and a few special interest
> groups? = But
> is it possible to act in such a way that is in the interest of all human
> beings? I guess I better stop here, we are supposed to use this =
> reflector
> for engineering related topics only...
>
> Arpad Muranyi
> Intel Corporation
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