[SI-LIST] Re: SI Intro for your review (If you need support on High Speed Design and Signal Integrity)
- From: "Ken Cantrell" <Ken.Cantrell@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <victor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <jeff.loyer@xxxxxxxxx>,<johnlipsius@xxxxxxxxx>, <jacque@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,<sales@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,"Ken Cantrell" <Ken.Cantrell@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 15:17:52 -0700
Not to reopen this can of worms, but...I don't know Victor, your company
just brings it out in me. Maybe it's the outlandish claims.
What happens Victor when you can't deliver on your claim of "save you lots
of money by offering you more than one individual for a fraction of the
annual Salary of one Signal Integrity Engineer". You're based in Irvine,
CA. You can't rent a garage for the annual salary of one Signal Integrity
Engineer.
From your posting:
"At any point we could at least allocate 10 very experienced Designers to
handle your project bandwidth." Must be a REALLY large group, maybe
hundreds. 10 engineers per project kind of cuts into the profit margin don't
you think?
From your web site:
"Sintegrity with over 50 man years in solving problems related to high-speed
design and signal integrity"
What you probably have is one guy with 15 - 20 years of experience that got
tired of working for someone else, and a full complement of a dozen
engineers. The average experience level of the other eleven people is
probably in the 3 - 5 year range. Given all of that, here's something for
"The Engineers at Sintegrity" to think about: get a job at a real place
before your ill planned company goes under.
My 2 cents,
Ken
-----Original Message-----
From: Victor Nader [mailto:victor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 10:23 PM
To: jeff.loyer@xxxxxxxxx; johnlipsius@xxxxxxxxx; jacque@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx;
sales@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx; info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Ken Cantrell
Cc: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; Ray Anderson
Subject: RE: [SI-LIST] Re: SI Intro for your review (If you need support
on High Speed Design and Signal Integrity)
Members of the SI list -
It appears that we stumbled upon a discussion forum for signal integrity
experts in our quest to find a forum where customers seek help with SI
issues. We did not intend to disrespect the forum's rules by advertising.
For this we are sincerely apologetic.
It is regretful that certain individuals have resorted to bigotry to get
their message (the appropriate message being contaminated by personal
opinion) across. Just as there is no place for advertising in this forum, we
would assume there is no place for bigotry or racism either. Especially
among intelligent individuals.
Sincerely,
The Engineers at Sintegrity.
---------- Original Message
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From: "Ken Cantrell" <Ken.Cantrell@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 11:48:49 -0700
>All,
>I agree with Jeff on the diversity issue completely. It's a garden that
>needs constant tending (on all sides). I would also point out that I
wasn't
>aware that Jacque's posting was "offshore" when I made my comments. I
>thought he was from SoCal, probably South Bay. So my comments stand.
>Ken
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>[mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Loyer, Jeff
>Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 10:22 AM
>To: johnlipsius@xxxxxxxxx; jacque@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx; sales@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx;
>info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Cc: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; Ray Anderson
>Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: SI Intro for your review (If you need support on
>High Speed Design and Signal Integrity)
>
>
>I personally am more offended by the sentence "get a real job in your =
>own country perhaps, not as a parasite here" as I am by the original =
>posting. Jacque, please don't take that comment as an indication of how =
>the majority of any group feels.
>
>I am feeling that more and more unprofessional attacks are finding their =
>way onto this list, and am getting reluctant to post, feeling that I may =
>be opening myself to personal affronts. I hope they will decrease =
>again.
>
>Do we need some "Diversity" guidelines for this forum?
>
>Jeff Loyer
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>[mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of john lipsius
>Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 6:33 PM
>To: jacque@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx; sales@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx; info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Cc: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: SI Intro for your review (If you need support on
>High Speed Design and Signal Integrity)
>
>
>All,
>Let me be the second... what fun...
>
>http://pbskids.org/teletubbies/hints/nurseryrhyme8.html
>
>the old nursery school rhyme...
>Fr=E8re Jacques,
>Fr=E8re Jacques,
>Dormez-vous?
>Dormez-vous?
>Sonnez les matines,
>Sonnez les matines,
>Ding, dang, dong!
>Ding, dang, dong!
>
>translation...
>Brother Jacques,
>Brother Jacques,
>Are you sleeping?
>Are you sleeping?
>Morning Bells are ringing,
>Morning Bells are ringing,
>Ding, dang, dong!
>Ding, dang, dong!
>
>
>It's morning, Jacque (you forgot the "s"). And
>morning bells are ringing. But I don't think you have
>the awareness to wake up to the foolishness you
>display.... perhaps most of the subscribers to this
>list are the ones which you say you can replace with
>your minions. To wit:
>
>"Our firm is able to save you lots of money by offering you more than
>one individual for a fraction of the annual Salary of one Signal =
>Integrity
>Engineer."
>
>Well, for practically zero dollars you have advertised yourself and your
>company as committed to undermining further the employment
>situation in engineering, especially for US citizens (as they are most
>affected). Your stunning lack of awareness leads one to believe
>you're actually not very sharp in engineering, as well.
>
>So, not only have you aimed the gun at your foot, but you're a poor
>shot, for the bullet ended up in the head.
>An honest reaction may well be: get a real job in your own
>country perhaps, not as a parasite here.
>But don't take it too personally. It's just an honest reaction.
>-bye now
>
> ----- Original Message -----=20
> From: Tom Dagostino
> To: jacque@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx ; si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Cc: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 5:15 PM
> Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: SI Intro for your review (If you need support =
>on High Speed Design
>and Signal Integrity)
>
>
> Jacques
>
> Let me be the first to slam you for commercial use of this system. =
>Its a
> no-no, against the rules, verboten. This is supposed to be a forum =
>for
> exchange of ideas and questions.
>
> Congrats on your first piece of negative PR for your firm.
>
> Tom Dagostino
> Teraspeed Consulting Group LLC Teraspeed Consulting Group LLC
> 2926 SE Yamhill St. Device Modeling Division
> Portland, OR 97214 13610 SW Harness Lane
> Beaverton, OR 97008
> http://www.teraspeed.com 503-430-1065
> tom@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of =
>Jacque@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 4:22 PM
> To: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Cc: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [SI-LIST] SI Intro for your review (If you need support on =
>High
> Speed Design and Signal Integrity)
>
>
> Dear Sir / Madam,
>
>
>
>
> As you know with the increasing demand for High Speed Design and =
>Signal
> Integrity, we have noticed that your company also could be looking
>
> for certain design engineering firms and high speed design engineering =
>teams
> with Signal Integrity & High Speed Design experience.
>
> Our firm is able to save you lots of money by offering you more than =
>one
> individual for a fraction of the annual Salary of one Signal Integrity
> Engineer.
>
> I represent the company called Sintegrity Corporation located in =
>Irvine, CA
> USA, and we are a specialized board design and circuit simulation =
>Company.
>
> We have expertise in various areas such as Simulation, layout and =
>trouble
> shooting (System, sub system, PCB)
>
> At any point we could at least allocate 10 very experienced Designers =
>to
> handle your project bandwidth.
>
> We also have a much larger network of qualified Consultants.
>
>
>
> Sintegrity is a research and design based company specialized in =
>Signal
> Integrity for High Speed design applications including
>
>
>
> SONET, Fibernet, Gigabit Ethernet, SFP, Add/Drop, Mux, Demux (SH, MR, =
>LH),
> Xaui, Backplane, Storage, Serial ATA, Set Top Boxes, 802.11b/g, =
>Bluetooth,
> 3G, PCI-Express.
>
>
>
> For your information our designers are very experienced with designs =
>using
> chipsets like Broadcom, Conexant, Intel, Vitesse, AMCC and Qlogic.
>
>
>
> We provide design and consultation services for Package, Board and =
>System
> level integration.
>
> We also do offer our strategic alliance with our customers to provide =
>turn
> key solutions for Evaluation boards and complex Substrate designs.
>
>
>
> Our services cover concept to finished product roadmaps.
>
>
>
> Services include:
>
>
>
> . Signal Integrity and EMC Analysis.
>
> . High Speed PCB Design & Layout
>
> . Design Debug Services for partially completed Projects
>
> . Circuit Simulation, Characterization & Package Design
>
> . Schematic Design & Capture
>
> . Manufacturing, Test and Assembly services
>
> . PCB & PACAKGE-SUBSTRATE Design and LAYOUT Services
>
> . Prototype Fabrication Services
>
> . EMC Consultation
>
> . Engineering training in EMC and Signal Integrity.
>
> . Time-to-Market Consultation
>
> . Cost-Reduction Services
>
> . Component Engineering
>
>
>
> Please review our attached Intro Card and our Info on our website and =
>let me
> know when it is a good time to contact you via telephone to discuss =
>your
> current or next project.
>
>
>
>
>
> Thank you
>
>
>
>
>
> Jacque Amirghahari
> Director of Global Sales
> SINTEGRITY Corporation
> "Your Source for Signal Integrity"
>
>
>
> Toll Free Phone: 866-9SIGNAL
> 866-9744625
>
>
> Phone: 949-707-0020
>
>
>
> Toll Free FAX: 866-4SINTEGRITY
> 866-44768347489
>
>
> FAX: 949-707-0024
>
>
>
> Email: jacque@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> WebSite: http://www.sintegrity.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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