Staric and Margan did a very easy to understand derivation of the relationship between risetime and bandwidth in their book "Wideband Amplifiers". See chapter 2. Tom Dagostino Teraspeed(R) Labs 13610 SW Harness Lane Beaverton, OR 97008 503-430-1065 tom@xxxxxxxxxxxxx www.teraspeed.com Teraspeed Consulting Group LLC 121 North River Drive Narragansett, RI 02882 401-284-1827 -----Original Message----- From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andrew Ingraham Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 10:21 AM To: si-list Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: Rise time bandwidth relation > Can somebody help me in understanding the derivation of the > following formula for digital signals:- Bandwidth = 0.35/Rise time. Don't they teach that in college anymore? I guess I shouldn't be surprised..... :-( Someone on this list (I think it was Howie Johnson, but might have been someone else) wrote a lengthy discussion about this formula and others like it, on the SI-List a few years ago, maybe a couple of times. (Some form of this question comes up every couple of years.) He derived the formulas for the most common cases of theoretical interest, including single pole and gaussian responses. Maybe you can find it if you search the archives. > In the > instance of an infinite pole, all pass filter a.k.a coax cable, I've > read that BW ~ .31/Tr (10% to 90%). Can anyone clarify the origin of > THAT number? Certainly not! Or was that meant as a trick question? An all-pass response such as a lossless coax cable, would have infinite bandwidth, so the formula above would be meaningless. Or perhaps you meant lossy coax with some assumed low-pass response...? Regards, Andy ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu