Hi Tim, Its really difficult to tell where the harmonics are generated without analysing the ckt. Here is what i can think of : Generally PLL's are designed to lock to only one freq based on what divide by value set in the divider ckt. So if input to PLL is say 300MHz and divide value in divider ckt is say 3 then o/p will definetly be 100MHz. VCO cannot generate any other freq since its voltage control points to the divide-by value. Moreover even if divider ckt or VCO generate harmonics, then PFD will not give correct phase shift and will not be able to generate correct voltage to VCO. Hence PLL will never lock. So my guess would be serializer generates harmonics. Hope This helps Regards Partha! --- Tim Lu <timoceous@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Hi all, > > I am analyzing the output spectrum of a PLL + > Serializer chip. Looking at the serial clock output > I > did see the locked output spectrum at 100Mhz. > Second > harmonic at 50Mhz and third harmonic 25Mhz. > > I do have a total of divided by 4 in the feedback > path. In the other path the VCO output of 100Mhz > are > feed into a serializer block. Where is it also > divided > by 4 to get the low speed 25Mb/s parallel data to be > serialized to the 100Mbs. Both the data and clock > comes out and the spectrum frequency I have > mentioned > above are looking at the serial clock from the > serializer. > > Here is my question, is there a way to find out > where the 2nd and 3rd harmonic is coming from? Is > it > coming from the PLL feedback path or is it coming > from > the serializr divider? I can't use the spectrum > analyzer to look at the inside the chip. I would > like to find out a way to test and find out where > the > 2nd and 3rd harmonic is coming from in the chip. > Any > help is greatly appreciated. > > T. > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, > live on your desktop! > http://platinum.yahoo.com > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > To unsubscribe from si-list: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in > the Subject field > > or to administer your membership from a web page, go > to: > //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list > > For help: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the > Subject field > > List archives are viewable at: > //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list > or at our remote archives: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages > Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are > viewable at: > http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu > > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu