They match pretty well with field solver. The small difference might be from the dielectric material loss tangent. Regards, Neo --- On Wed, 3/3/10, Kenneth W. Egan <kegan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: From: Kenneth W. Egan <kegan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: RE: [SI-LIST] Re: Outer Shield of coaxial cable To: "'Neo'" <neoflash2008@xxxxxxxxx>, "'steve weir'" <weirsi@xxxxxxxxxx> Cc: "'List Si'" <si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: Wednesday, March 3, 2010, 9:10 PM For a generic 26ga cable with shield the Total S21 should be about 1.5468dB/m or thereabouts @ 3GHz. So the TOTAL S21 is around 15.4dB @ 3GHz This figure isn't the shield contribution. -----Original Message----- From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Neo Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 2:31 PM To: steve weir Cc: List Si Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: Outer Shield of coaxial cable Hi, I think I exaggerated the loss contributed from outer shield. I checked the data again. At 3GHz, 10m AWG26 cable has three results: 1.) 3mil outer copper: S21 = -13.6dB 2.) 1mil outer copper: S21 = -14.1dB 3.) 3mil ideal conductor: S21 = -10.4dB Does it make sense this time? Regards, Neo --- On Wed, 3/3/10, steve weir <weirsi@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: From: steve weir <weirsi@xxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: Outer Shield of coaxial cable To: "Neo" <neoflash2008@xxxxxxxxx> Cc: "List Si" <si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: Wednesday, March 3, 2010, 3:10 AM Neo, if 3 mils of Cu shield thickness is showing up as your dominant loss, then you are either running at deep sub MHz frequencies, or you set the problem up incorrectly. Steve. Neo wrote: > Hi folks, > I have a question about the outer shield metal of a coaxial cable. > > For a AWG26 cable, what is thickness of the usually used outer shield copper layer? I tried to use 3mil, and the field solver told me that the most lossy part of the cable is the shield. > > Any suggestion? > > Regards, > Neo > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > To unsubscribe from si-list: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field > > or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: > //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list > > For help: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field > > > List technical documents are available at: > http://www.si-list.net > > List archives are viewable at: > //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list > > Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: > http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu > > > > -- Steve Weir IPBLOX, LLC 150 N. Center St. #211 Reno, NV 89501 www.ipblox.com (775) 299-4236 Business (866) 675-4630 Toll-free (707) 780-1951 Fax ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu