Scott, I saw an app note from Accelerant Networks (16_0008_A.pdf) that states the loss tangent of solder mask is rather lower than fr4 (0.001), yet you said you determined it must be higher than 0.02? Are there different types of maks? Anybody would like to clarify? I'd appreciate it. Thanks, Gus ******************************************************************* Michael, At the time we believed that the loss tangent of soldermask was about 0.02. Based upon high frequency eye losses that we were seeing, we determined that the loss tangent must be higher. We didn't make any additional measurements to determine the loss tangent precisely, nor did we go back and make corrections to our model and resolve for the higher loss tangent. scott ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu