That's true, the IBIS models don't contain models for the differential outputs. You need to request spice models for the Ethernet buffers, which are available if you push hard enough. Fabrizio -----Original Message----- From: Nguyen, Mike [mailto:Mike_Nguyen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]=20 Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2003 12:54 PM To: timothy.coyle@xxxxxxx; si list Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: Looking for Fast Ethernet IBIS File Marvell and Broadcom don't model the differential outputs for their PHY either. Mike -----Original Message----- From: Timothy Coyle [mailto:timothy.coyle@xxxxxxx]=3D20 Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2003 8:11 AM To: si list Subject: [SI-LIST] Looking for Fast Ethernet IBIS File Hi, A colleague of mine is looking for a fast ethernet IBIS file that models the differential output. It seems some vendors (like Intel) don't model these pins. Thanks, Tim ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: =3D20 //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages=3D20 Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu =3D20 ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: =20 //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages=20 Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu =20 -------------------------------------------------------- =20 This email message and any files transmitted with it contain = confidential information intended only for the person(s) to whom this = email message is addressed. If you have received this email message in = error, please notify the sender immediately by telephone or email and = destroy the original message without making a copy. Thank you.=20 =20 ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu