Neeraj Pendse wrote: << I disagree with Michael's statement that it does not make sense to talk about the inductance of the via in isolation. While I agree to the fact that the entire current "loop" must be considered when you are minimizing the inductance - the concept of inductance is not limited to "loops", bet can also be applied to discreet pieces of a loop. When all significant mutual inductances are accounted for, the total inductance of the loop can be easily realized from the pieces. This is the concept of "partial inductance", and in my opinion it is a very powerful method of evaluating interconnects when you want to do a lumped element analysis. >> I think we're actually in agreement here. You say that "when all significant mutual inductances are accounted for", you can use partial inductances to get the right answer. All I'm saying is that, in the via problem, there are significant mutual inductances, the ones between the signal via and the return path. Without considering them, the partial inductance of the via by itself is meaningless. It's not even a good approximation to the total loop inductance, except by accident, because the mutual partial inductances to neighboring vias are of the same order of magnitude. Partial inductances can be a useful tool, but one sees them misused almost as often as one sees them used correctly, and this is a perfect example. -- Michael Tsuk Compaq AlphaServer Product Development (508) 467-4621 ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list Old list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu