Which simulation deck do you use? -----=D3=CA=BC=FE=D4=AD=BC=FE----- =B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx = [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] =B4=FA=B1=ED Stephane Tremblay =B7=A2=CB=CD=CA=B1=BC=E4: 2008=C4=EA4=D4=C218=C8=D5 3:26 =CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx =D6=F7=CC=E2: [SI-LIST] IBIS question Hi SI-Listers, =20 I am using a DDR IO buffer that has not been designed in-house. = The macro provider did provided us with an IBIS model for the Termination = AND another IBIS Model for the IO itself (since there is active termination = on DDR2). Since the two are connected on the same PAD at the die level, I = did the same on the simulation deck. By doing so, I got nasty sim results = and after investigation I realized that Package info was present on both = IBIS models.=20 =20 As I think I am a smart engineer, I tried to decoupled the package info = from the actual two IBIS models that I have, but I don't get the same results = if I put the parasitic outside the IBIS vs. inside the IBIS.=20 =20 Anyone has a clue why?=20 =20 How do I get Package Parasitic outside the IBIS? Just setting RLC = discrete values outside did not reproduce the same sim. =20 Here is the Parasitic I need to separate from my Model: =20 [Package] | variable typ min max R_pkg 0.58 0.48 0.68 L_pkg 5.80nH 4.10nH 7.50nH C_pkg 0.58pF 0.51pF 0.65pF | =20 Thanks, Steph. ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net List archives are viewable at: =20 //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu =20 ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu