Those settings indicate which IBIS V/T curve you will use in the sim. A setting of 0 means you will just use the ramp data (and get a trapezoidal output wave). A setting of 1 means you will use the first V/T curve that exists in the model. A setting of 2 means you will use two V/T curves (both extracted with different test fixtures) in the sim, provided there are 2 V/T curves in the IBIS model for that buffer. Even the HSpice manual recommends checking your simulated curves with the ramp_rwf and _fwf set to 2 against simulated curves with these set to 1 or 0 to ensure the curves do not have gross inconsistencies or inaccuracies. --Pat -----Original Message----- From: John Ellis [mailto:jellis@xxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2002 7:20 AM To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [SI-LIST] IBIS model ramp option Hello, In the HSpice implementation of an output buffer, there is a optional statement ramp_rwf=0,1,2 and ramp_fwf=0,1,2. Could someone explain the difference between the settings. When is it appropriate to use 1 or 2 instead of the default? My understanding is that these statements along with the "tune" statement are used to get the IBIS outputs to match up to the SPICE based output. Is this correct. If you receive a buffer with minimal documentation and no spice output to compare it to, is it proper to use the default value, or should you set the ramp to 2 and let Hspice defauslt to the highest level supported? Thanks, John Ellis Vice President Interconnect Technology TriCN, Inc. 1431 Garalyn Road Harrisburg, PA 17110 Phone:717-213-9566 Fax: 717-238-0302 email:jellis@xxxxxxxxx ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu