Synopsis has a very good white paper with an example on their website, search SolvNet for "Performing a TDR Simulation in HSPICE. robert Robert Washburn | Senior Hardware Engineer | National Instruments | 512.683.6708 From: Dan <signal.integrity2@xxxxxxxxx> To: "Alfred P. Neves" <al@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, weirsi@xxxxxxxxxx Cc: "si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: 03/25/2011 10:34 AM Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: HSPICE deck for single ended TDR Sent by: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx HI Alfred/Steve/Others, thanks for your reply. It is the touchstone file from simulation tool.The s-parameter fileis correct since i am getting correct insertion loss and return loss. Can i get any reference hspice deck so that I can compare it with what i have created. Thanks agaian. Regards Dan On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 7:50 AM, Alfred P. Neves <al@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote: > I would suggest starting with a known trace, something to verify you > measurement and simulation methodology with. Classic resonating Beatty > standards work very well for this. Also, did you do some basic calibration > verification on you VNA? Also, check the full s-parameter matrix including > diagonal terms to insure you have adequate return loss into you launch. > > We have numerous white papers on our website for achieving correspondence > between measurement and simulation to within 2% past 30Ghz using our Channel > Modeling platforms we developed exactly for this purpose. > > > > Regards, > Alfred P. Neves > Director of Business Development > Wild River Technology LLC > > work 503 718 7172 > mobile 503 679 2429 > > Sent from my iPad2 > > On Mar 25, 2011, at 2:22 AM, steve weir <weirsi@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > Dan, one other thought: I think that you would be better off with log > > frequency points in the S parameter file than linear. At any rate, I > > suspect that you do not have enough points and/or coverage across a wide > > enough frequency spectrum. > > > > Steve. > > Dan wrote: > >> HI All, > >> I have the touchstone file of a single ended trace. I am using HSPICE to > >> import that touchstone file and plot the impedance vs time. I have > created a > >> hspice deck and am not getting exact TDR waveform. Can anyone help me on > >> this? > >> > >> Thank You for your help. > >> > >> Dan > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------ > >> To unsubscribe from si-list: > >> si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field > >> > >> or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: > >> //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list > >> > >> For help: > >> si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field > >> > >> > >> List technical documents are available at: > >> http://www.si-list.net > >> > >> List archives are viewable at: > >> //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list > >> > >> Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: > >> http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > > Steve Weir > > IPBLOX, LLC > > 150 N. Center St. #211 > > Reno, NV 89501 > > www.ipblox.com > > > > (775) 299-4236 Business > > (866) 675-4630 Toll-free > > (707) 780-1951 Fax > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from si-list: > > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field > > > > or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: > > //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list > > > > For help: > > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field > > > > > > List technical documents are available at: > > http://www.si-list.net > > > > List archives are viewable at: > > //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list > > > > Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: > > http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu