[SI-LIST] Re: HSPICE deck for single ended TDR

  • From: Robert Washburn <robert.washburn@xxxxxx>
  • To: Dan <signal.integrity2@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 10:46:19 -0500

Synopsis has a very good white paper with an example on their website, 
search SolvNet for "Performing a TDR Simulation in HSPICE.
robert


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From:   Dan <signal.integrity2@xxxxxxxxx>
To:     "Alfred P. Neves" <al@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, weirsi@xxxxxxxxxx
Cc:     "si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date:   03/25/2011 10:34 AM
Subject:        [SI-LIST] Re: HSPICE deck for single ended TDR
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HI Alfred/Steve/Others,
thanks for your reply. It is the touchstone file from simulation tool.The
s-parameter fileis correct since i am getting correct insertion loss and
return loss. Can i get any reference hspice deck so that I can compare it
with what i have created.

Thanks agaian.

Regards
Dan

On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 7:50 AM, Alfred P. Neves 
<al@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:

> I would suggest starting with a known trace,  something to verify you
> measurement and simulation methodology with.  Classic resonating Beatty
> standards work very well for this.   Also, did you do some basic 
calibration
> verification on you VNA?   Also, check the full s-parameter matrix 
including
> diagonal terms to insure you have adequate return loss into you launch.
>
> We have numerous white papers on our website for achieving 
correspondence
> between measurement and simulation to within 2% past 30Ghz using our 
Channel
> Modeling platforms we developed exactly for this purpose.
>
>
>
> Regards,
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> On Mar 25, 2011, at 2:22 AM, steve weir <weirsi@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > Dan, one other thought:  I think that you would be better off with log
> > frequency points in the S parameter file than linear.  At any rate, I
> > suspect that you do not have enough points and/or coverage across a 
wide
> > enough frequency spectrum.
> >
> > Steve.
> > Dan wrote:
> >> HI All,
> >> I have the touchstone file of a single ended trace. I am using HSPICE 
to
> >> import that touchstone file and plot the impedance vs time. I have
> created a
> >> hspice deck and am not getting exact TDR waveform. Can anyone help me 
on
> >> this?
> >>
> >> Thank You for your help.
> >>
> >> Dan
> >>
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