Hi Craig, My E-mail got sent out too quick so I wasn't able to finish what I was saying. The element has three ports: ----- ---> 1 -| | --> 2 ----- | 3 With port 3 as global ground. I have used the .NET and using Z11(i) and etc. to try to calculate the Leq but got the wrong values. I have also tried to do what you have suggested which I used an AC source at port 1 and use a VCVS to mirror the same source with 180 phase shift at port 2 and got the same wrong result. I am curious if the .LIN with "port" sources in the "Hspice" can do the trick. From the .LIN and get the S11,S12,S22,S21 etc and use it to transform it to Z one port Leq. Does any one know how to do that? I am new to the "port" sources and every time I try it, it failed to simulate. Thanks, Tim --- Craig Clewell <tthumb0000@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > you can use the same source you have on now, but add > a second and put a 180 > phase shift on it, or you can use the same source > and reverse the > positive/negative nodes so that the positive node is > going to ground instead > of the negative. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "timoceous" <timoceous@xxxxxxxxx> > To: "si" <si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 5:50 PM > Subject: [SI-LIST] Differential Z-One port > > > > Hi all, > > > > I have one element which I am tring to use > Hspice > > to find out the Leq. I am told to use the > imaginary > > differential Z one port to measure the Leq. The > issue > > is that I know how to do it single-ended but I > don't > > know how to do in differential. > > > > I have used .LIN for the single-ended measurements > but > > for the differential what kind of source would I > use? > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from si-list: > > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' > in the Subject field > > > > or to administer your membership from a web page, > go to: > > //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list > > > > For help: > > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the > Subject field > > > > List FAQ wiki page is located at: > > > http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Si-List_FAQ > > > > List technical documents are available at: > > http://www.si-list.org > > > > List archives are viewable at: > > //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list > > or at our remote archives: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages > > Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are > viewable at: > > http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List FAQ wiki page is located at: http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Si-List_FAQ List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.org List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu