Great catch Scott. I was thinking the same thing, since we saw a "demo" of what Synchron has, and recognized the name. Keep 'em honest. :) ---------Included Message---------- > Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 18:45:15 -0700 > From: "Scott McMorrow" <scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Reply-To: <scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <mmanginella@xxxxxxx> > Cc: <ajmani@xxxxxxxxxx>, <si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: Board layout issue > > > Mike, > > Why didn't you just go ahead and say that you are with Syncron > Technologies? Your posting is a bit deceptive. In your posting you > speak as if you are a helpful third person and not an employee of Syncron. > > This group has never had a problem with vendors mentioning that they > have a product which might take care of a particular engineering issue > that is being discussed. > > By the way, the layer stackup optimizer does not seem to be mentioned on > your web page. > > regards, > > scott > > -- > Scott McMorrow > Teraspeed Consulting Group LLC > 2926 SE Yamhill St. > Portland, OR 97214 > (503) 239-5536 > http://www.teraspeed.com > > > Mike Manginella wrote: > > >There is a company, Syncron Technologies (www.syncrontechnologies.com) that > >has a layer stack up optimizer. The interesting thing about it is you can > >enter constraints for line and layer impedances as well as other material > >properties and get a good idea of the number of board layers to use. It is > >constraint driven design for SI. > > > > > >Thanks > >Mike Manginella > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Ravinder Ajmani" <ajmani@xxxxxxxxxx> > >To: <si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 3:48 PM > >Subject: [SI-LIST] Board layout issue > > > > > > > > > >>Hi Layout Gurus, > >>Is there a quick and dirty method to determine if a circuit can be routed > >>on an FR4 board of certain dimension, by taking in to account the > >> > >> > >available > > > > > >>card area and cumulative area of all components. The card will be about > >>0.8mm thick with six layers (four signal and two power). I do not have > >> > >> > >the > > > > > >>option to use microvia or any other exotic technology. > >> > >>Your input will be very much appreciated. > >> > >>Regards, Ravinder > >>PCB Development and Design Department > >>IBM Corporation > >>Email: ajmani@xxxxxxxxxx > >> > >> > >> > >*************************************************************************** > > > > > >>Always do right. This will gratify some people and astonish the rest. > >>.... 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