Panch, Several presentations at recent IBIS Summits have demonstrated=20 how IBIS may be successfully used for multi-gigabit per second=20 data streams. The following URL links to a Summit archive with=20 relevant presentations: http://www.eda.org/pub/ibis/summits/jun03b/ The list of Summits can be found at: http://www.eda.org/pub/ibis/summits/ Consult the "00readme.txt" files in each Summit subdirectory for the list of presentation files. - Michael Mirmak Intel Corp. Chair, EIA/IBIS Open Forum -----Original Message----- From: Panch Chandrasekaran [mailto:panch_si@xxxxxxxxx]=20 Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 3:12 PM To: Muranyi, Arpad; si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: Behavioral modeling Arpad, Thanks for your reply. There is a general feeling that IBIS is not very accurate for multi-gigabit/s data streams and it is a pain to incorporate features like pre-emphasis etc. Any thoughts on this.=20 =20 Panch "Muranyi, Arpad" <arpad.muranyi@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: Have you checked into IBIS modeling? http://www.eigroup.org/ibis/ibis.htm Arpad =3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D= 3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D =3D3D=3D =3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D=3D3D -----Original Message----- From: Panch Chandrasekaran [mailto:panch_si@xxxxxxxxx] Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 11:22 AM To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Cc: panch_si@xxxxxxxxx Subject: [SI-LIST] Behavioral modeling All, What is a good way to do behavioral modeling? Running SPICE for high =3D speed simulations ( 3 - 4 Gbps) can be very time consuming especially = =3D with backplane,via, connector models etc. I have heard that VHDL AMS and =3D Cadence's DML are options that can used with their tools. Is there a =3D simpler way to do it with reasonable accuracy? Stuff that can be imported into SPICE tools and that will save on =3D simulation times. =3D20 Thanks for your thoughts. =3D20 Panch Chandrasekaran --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: =3D20 //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages=3D20 Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu =3D20 ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at:=20 //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages=20 Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: =20 //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages=20 Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu =20 ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu