Sounds like you got the 'beta' version Jim: - ) Regards, Bill William Csongradi Senior Electrical Engineer Rockwell Collins Heads Down Display Center 319-295-7884 Mailing Address Rockwell Collins 400 Collins Road NE MS 105-167 Cedar Rapids, Iowa 52498-0001 "Peterson, James F (EHCOE)" <james.f.peterson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent by: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 04/09/2010 09:07 AM To "si-list" <si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> cc Subject [SI-LIST] Altera's PDN Design tool - what changed? We use the Altera PDN design tool to evaluate the decoupling of their Stratix lll FPGAs. We just upgraded our older version of this tool to the newest version (Version 2.0), and our decoupling solution that had margin now fails miserably... Any other Altera users seeing this problem? We can't figure out what caused it. It looks like more inductance, but we've zeroed out most of that and we still fail. (We don't have visibility into the actual equations.) Anyway, if an Altera expert is listening, your input (and all SI-Listers) is welcome to help us understand this. (we've also initiated an inquiry within Altera.) Thanks, Jim Peterson Honeywell ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu