Hi, Lynne I have already tried the second way to add Vcc_core voltage source within the subckt, but "no covergence" in dc sweep curves at 3.300v I want to try the first way .But how can I use s2ibis3 model to extract data from hspice? How can I choose the s2ibis3 model? >From: "Lynne D. Green" <lgreen22@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >Reply-To: lgreen22@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx >To: <cui_930@xxxxxxx>, <si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: About S2ibis2 >Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 20:50:14 -0800 > >Hi, James, > >First, you must decide how Vcc_core will vary with corners. It might vary >in the same direction as Vcc_pu, or in the opposite direction, or not at >all. SPICE can help you determine the best/worst case combinations >(corresponding to IBIS min/max corners). > >The SPICE input files must have Vcc (Vcc_pu) set the normal way for >s2ibnis3. The Vcc_core (1.8V) source must be created, with the desired >voltage, before the SPICE files generated by s2ibis3 are simulated. This >can not be done using the default s2ibis3 flow. > >There are two ways to add a Vcc_core voltage source under s2ibis3. One >could add the Vcc_core pin to the subckt AND to every call to the subckt, >and add a Vcc_core voltage source - this requires editing EVERY SPICE file >generated by s2ibis3, running SPICE, then running s2ibis3 model extraction. >Alternatively, one could add a Vcc_core voltage source within the subckt - >this has the advantage that one does not need to edit the s2ibis3 netlists, >except to set the voltage for Vcc_core. I personally prefer the second >approach, but either one will work. > >Best of luck, >Lynne > >PS: Please check my web site for upcoming IBIS training classes. We are >willing to arrange classes in additional locations. > > >"IBIS training when you need it, where you need it." > >Dr. Lynne Green >Green Streak Programs >http://www.greenstreakprograms.com >425-788-0412 >lgreen22@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > >-----Original Message----- >From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On >Behalf Of james cui >Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 7:47 PM >To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Subject: [SI-LIST] About S2ibis2 > >Hello,ALL >thanks Lynne for your help >I have another question about S2IBIS2. > > >How can I change ".DC" sweep range to generate Pullup curve,but not change >core power? >(now) **Pullup curve Vcc=1.8v > **core power Vcc=1.8v >(I want)**Pullup curve Vcc=3.3v > **core power Vcc=1.8v > >Thanks > > >------------------------------------------------------------------ >To unsubscribe from si-list: >si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field > >or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: >//www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list > >For help: >si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field > >List FAQ wiki page is located at: > http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Si-List_FAQ > >List technical documents are available at: > http://www.si-list.org > >List archives are viewable at: > //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list >or at our remote archives: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages >Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: > http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu > > _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List FAQ wiki page is located at: http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Si-List_FAQ List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.org List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu