This is very true. Due to skin effect, at 10 GHz the signal will =20 practically be travelling on the surface of the wire. So, from this perspective, a typical circular wire is actually the =20 most inefficient. A cylinder has the least perimeter to area ratio. It's a theoretical statement, but for this reason, an elliptical wire =20 will give much better high frequency characteristics than a circular =20 wire. Maybe someday someone tries it out. Since the concern mentioned below is cost of gold, it would be easy to =20 see that for the same surface area a 1:2 ratioed ellipse will have =20 more than 33% less area, i.e. more than 33% less gold. Gold prices =20 have hit $ 900 a troy ounce. Regards Aditya Reliant PCB Design Services Quoting "Barnes, Heidi" <heidi.barnes@xxxxxxxxxx>: > Hi Davis, > The smaller Au 0.7 mil wire has been used extensively for micro circuits = =3D > in the 10 Ghz range and higher with no problems. The trick is to =3D > realize that the currents tend to have a bit higher density on the =3D > outside edges of the microstrip as one goes up in frequency and the =3D > bigger benefit is to use two wire bonds to go from each edge of the =3D > microstrip to the pad on the device. The two wires lower the inductance = =3D > far more then a wider diameter wire and also provide a better path for =3D > the signal currents. If the pad is too small.... there have been cases =3D > of stacked bonds to accommodate the two wires. At even higher =3D > frequencies, one typically switches to ribbon bonding or strips of wire = =3D > mesh cut to a desired shape rather then increasing the wire diameter. > > The other issue is current carrying capacity, but again one can double =3D > up on the bonds if the 0.7mil is not enough. =3D20 > > As for a rule...it always depends on the application and one should use = =3D > a 3DEM simulator to find the electrical properties of the wire bond in =3D > the environment that it is being used in. > > Goodluck on the bonding, > Heidi > > -----Original Message----- > From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] = =3D > On Behalf Of Lu, Devis > Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 5:11 PM > To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [SI-LIST] 0.9 mil,0.8 mil,0.7mil gold wire application for IC =3D > packaging > > Dear si-listers: > As Gold wire price keep increasing in recent year, we are working on > evaluate 0.9mil,0.8mil, and 0.7 mil gold wire for wirebonding MCP > package. But we have some SI concerns if we reduce the gold wire > diameters although our current product speed is only 133MHZ . Does > anyone have study this before,and come out design rule Gold Wire > Diameter Vs max wire length? > Regards > Davis > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > To unsubscribe from si-list: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field > > or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: > //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list > > For help: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field > > > List technical documents are available at: > http://www.si-list.net > > List archives are viewable at: =3D20 > =09=09//www.freelists.org/archives/si-list > or at our remote archives: > =09=09http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages > Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: > =09=09http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu > =3D20 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > To unsubscribe from si-list: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field > > or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: > //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list > > For help: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field > > > List technical documents are available at: > http://www.si-list.net > > List archives are viewable at: > =09=09//www.freelists.org/archives/si-list > or at our remote archives: > =09=09http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages > Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: > =09=09http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu