plastic on the inside of the windows also helps keep the heat in. kerri >From: Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx >Reply-To: Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx >To: foxfels@xxxxxxxxxxx, Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] was Propane furnaces... Sorry OT.../ well >handles???/heat pumps >Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 09:03:50 EST > > > >In a message dated 1/16/2007 9:30:13 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, >foxfels@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: >Does anyone living in one of the really cold areas use a propane furnace >to >heat their home? >Our house is about 2700 sq ft. Last week we put in a 'high efficiency' >propane to the tune of $4000, and have used 200 lbs of fuel in about 5 >days.... That would be about 1600 lbs/month, running around $1200. This >strikes me as completely ridiculous. We changed over as it was supposed >to >be more efficient and cost effective! I'm about ready to tell them to >pull >it out and put my oil back in... > >Of course private replies are probably most appropriate. > >Jenn > > > >I'd love to hear the replies too! Both my sister and I have been >considering a propane fueled back up generator. We both have wells and >you know, if >the power goes out, no water! Cost (and it varies with what you want to >use >the generator for...the biggie seems to be the hot water heater), >ball-park >$3,500 + installation. Installation roughly is a double, so say $7,000. >BUT...her friends down the road installed one for last winter, and they >have 2 sump >pumps (sp?) that have to run in their (old re-done farmhouse) so their >total >initial outlay was $10,000....AND HERE'S THE KICKER...the power went out, >the generator went on as planned and their tank (300 lb. capacity) that >was 2/3 >full ran out in less than three days!!!! > >Now, I know you could go down to the wall panel and shut down everything >but >the essentials, (well pump and fridge), cut the heat way back, maybe not >use >the hot water heater, but watching the recent ice storms in the mid west, >and > doubtful in that situation that it would be reasonable to expect propane >delivery, I'm thinking I'd want a lot more use than 3 days. > >Still... worried about water, I got to thinking about the old fashioned >pump >handles. Does anyone know if they can be attached somehow to the top of a >(modern) well, so that if the power goes out, we could just go pump our >own, >like the old-fashioned pumps? That won't help the food in the fridge, >but...just wondering. > >Oh, and Jenn...I have two high efficiency heat pumps. (Replaced the ones >that the original builder installed in '05). Big house w/ 30 windows (the >ones >on the first floor are floor to ceiling...not exactly energy efficient!). >I >keep the thermostats at 65 upstairs, 67 downstairs. My electric bill (way >up >on top of a windy hill in PA) in the winter...are you sitting >down?????.... >has never hit $300, and that includes last winter when I used ceramic >heaters >in the separate building for young-ish puppies. Love, love, love the heat >pumps! Since you have the propane in, why not install a heat pump and use >the >propane as back up? I know it isn't what you planned, buy maybe.... > >Kathy >member GSDCA, DVGSDC >three generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions live here! > >visit _Pine Hill German Shepherd Dogs_ >(http://www.geocities.com/pinehillgsds/) > > >============================================================================ >POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the >original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS >of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author >AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. > >ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY >MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS >PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY >FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. 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