[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: was Propane furnaces... Sorry OT.../ well handles???/heat pumps
- From: Doris E <irrenhaus4@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 07:04:50 -0800
We lived at Lake Tahoe for many years, and Propane was all that was
available for heating, as electricity was REALLY expensive. At that
time,(1960s) Propane was .18 cents a gallon. This is no longer
true.<VBG> We had a small resort, and boy, oh boy, we really dreaded
those bills, even at that price. The thought of paying for it now is
frightening. My daughter has oil heat, which is much more reasonable.
Doris E
>
>In a message dated 1/16/2007 9:30:13 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>foxfels@xxxxxxxxxxx writes:
>Does anyone living in one of the really cold areas use a propane furnace to
>heat their home?
>Our house is about 2700 sq ft. Last week we put in a 'high efficiency'
>propane to the tune of $4000, and have used 200 lbs of fuel in about 5
>days.... That would be about 1600 lbs/month, running around $1200. This
>strikes me as completely ridiculous. We changed over as it was supposed to
>be more efficient and cost effective! I'm about ready to tell them to pull
>it out and put my oil back in...
>
>Of course private replies are probably most appropriate.
>
>Jenn
>
>
>
>I'd love to hear the replies too! Both my sister and I have been
>considering a propane fueled back up generator. We both have wells and you
>know, if
>the power goes out, no water! Cost (and it varies with what you want to use
>the generator for...the biggie seems to be the hot water heater), ball-park
>$3,500 + installation. Installation roughly is a double, so say $7,000.
>BUT...her friends down the road installed one for last winter, and they have
>2 sump
>pumps (sp?) that have to run in their (old re-done farmhouse) so their total
>initial outlay was $10,000....AND HERE'S THE KICKER...the power went out,
>the generator went on as planned and their tank (300 lb. capacity) that was
>2/3
>full ran out in less than three days!!!!
>
>Now, I know you could go down to the wall panel and shut down everything but
>the essentials, (well pump and fridge), cut the heat way back, maybe not use
>the hot water heater, but watching the recent ice storms in the mid west, and
> doubtful in that situation that it would be reasonable to expect propane
>delivery, I'm thinking I'd want a lot more use than 3 days.
>
>Still... worried about water, I got to thinking about the old fashioned pump
>handles. Does anyone know if they can be attached somehow to the top of a
>(modern) well, so that if the power goes out, we could just go pump our own,
>like the old-fashioned pumps? That won't help the food in the fridge,
>but...just wondering.
>
>Oh, and Jenn...I have two high efficiency heat pumps. (Replaced the ones
>that the original builder installed in '05). Big house w/ 30 windows (the
>ones
>on the first floor are floor to ceiling...not exactly energy efficient!). I
>keep the thermostats at 65 upstairs, 67 downstairs. My electric bill (way up
>on top of a windy hill in PA) in the winter...are you sitting down?????....
>has never hit $300, and that includes last winter when I used ceramic heaters
>in the separate building for young-ish puppies. Love, love, love the heat
>pumps! Since you have the propane in, why not install a heat pump and use
>the
>propane as back up? I know it isn't what you planned, buy maybe....
>
>Kathy
>member GSDCA, DVGSDC
>three generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions live here!
>
>visit _Pine Hill German Shepherd Dogs_
>(http://www.geocities.com/pinehillgsds/)
>
>
>
>
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