It's all over FB. My take so far...if I have 4 or less intact females on my property (I do) AND anyone who would purchase a puppy actually meets the puppy and myself before paying in full (deposits, refundable or not OK prior), no change. Co-owned bitches not living at my house (I have 1 of those but she is going to be 7 so spayed shortly), don't count towards my #s. Animals sold for breeding (so say I want a puppy from that Panda Carolyn and I co-own), could be shipped and not interfere w/ any requirements, so all kidding aside if we want to sell/purchase a show prospect w/o physically delivering or going to get it, because technically it would be a breeding prospect...no biggie. If I bought a bitch though that would count towards the 4 and under rule. You know who this will hurt? Those web sites that sell over the Internet from the big puppy mills/Amish. (And believe me, that is NOT going to cause me to lose sleep). Take a look: http://www.greenfieldpuppies.com/ http://www.lancasterpuppies.com/ http://keystonepuppies.com/ http://www.sunnysidepuppies.com/ It could hurt, and by "hurt" they would have to follow the regulations, "hobby" breeders who keep more than four intact bitches. The proposed legislation is actually less strict than PA as far as potential #s... and anybody I know with 4+ intact bitches already has a kennel license. The only difference I see is if a breeder was to ship a puppy sight unseen they had better not have anything written about spay/neuter. Without that, it's a breeding prospect and flys, no pun intended, under the radar. Kathy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC Celebrating generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions visit http://www.pinehillgsds.com/ In a message dated 9/12/2013 10:07:49 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, stormy435@xxxxxxxxx writes: If you are interested, I can guide you to some places that are really digging into the Regulations and what they will mean to pet Breeders and regular breeders. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2012. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================