[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: time to put up, or shut up
- From: Pat Evans <patsgsdpups@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: "shadowland22000@xxxxxxxxx" <shadowland22000@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 07:36:24 -0500
I wish! So many GSD's also have E.P.I. I see so many heartbreaking stories
with the humans battling this and trying to help their dogs. A registry for all
genetic issues. Not rocket science.
Pat Evans
On May 24, 2012, at 10:19 PM, MORGAN LEWIS <shadowland22000@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I think in the end we will determine that the OFA/UM Test is valid for a
> certain type of neuro disease, whether it is DM or not will probably never be
> known. The Test looks for a particular marker NOT A DISEASE. the dog may
> never come down with the� disease.
> There are too few dogs tested and even fewer dog necropsies performed to
> determine the� accuracy of this test. And a sampling of the� dogs tested
> would not be non bias - those dogs were tested because there was a fear of
> the� disease,
> �
> If you want a valid test have every� member of the� gsdca, swab ever GSD in
> their possession. Send in the swabs and post all data. Also the GSDCA might
> offer free necropsies to� GSDs that die from� suspected DM or� Cancer. The
> White GSD Club offers such a program to it's members and have a list of Vet
> Colleges that participate in their program
> �
> �
> I do know this: I had a bitch tested several years ago from a line that was
> THOUGHT to be a Carrier - the bitch tested FLASH POSITIVE. I am now looking
> at another bitch (same lines) whose dam is OFA/UM positive as a CARRIER. Same
> line, different test, same result. There are other studies out there -
> something is causing a concern among the researchers. All test are simply�
> TOOLS, Use them wisely, but honestly right now the� best source of knowledge
> we have is the� pedigree and the info from people who have honestly known
> these dogs. �Now if we could have an honest OPEN REGISTRY where the owners
> list names, DOB. DOD, critics, Titles, health problems (Vet Records) and�
> Necropsy (Vet� School.) ; litter #s number of� live births, # died. Then as a
> breeder or as a�buyer you could make wiser decisions!!
> �
> Morgan� Lewis, RPh.
> Member GSDCA
> President Last Hope of� Georgia 501c3
> "So Much to Do, So Little Time"
> From: "ELG440@xxxxxxx" <ELG440@xxxxxxx>
> To: RopajaGSD@xxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2012 10:52 PM
> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] time to put up, or shut up
>
> In a message dated 5/24/2012 6:54:03 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,�
> RopajaGSD@xxxxxxx writes:
> you are� basing your premise on a test that has�
> been proven to be� unreliable
>
>
>
> It is time for someone to provide proof of that statement.
>
> It is easy to make a statement. What proof is there that the test is�
> unreliable?
>
> It has been posted that it is.� That is nothing but an opinion.
>
>
> Evan L.� Ginsburg
> Asgard German Shepherds�
> http://www.asgardgsd.com/
> Where Type Movement and� Temperament come� together
>
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