[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: the hock...the foot...
- From: Ken Tank <tanksr@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 17:05:09 -0700
I believe in technically correct terminology the "hock" is the joint or
ankle that connects the tibia and fibula to the metatarsus (or rear
pastern). We often refer to the whole assembly hock joint and metatarsus as
the hock.
Ken
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 3:37 PM, Carolyn Martello
<marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:
> I did not... and would never say that a horse does not have a rear pastern
> as they most
> certainly do......front and rear........but then.......they also have
> hooves. <G>
> HOWEVER..............dogs do not "have back rear pasterns just like a
> horse does."
> As an artist and someone who has drawn and painted for years I would like
> to
> know where my error is......and where it is in all the skeletal images we
> see of
> a DOG as I certainly have missed that.........?
> Regarding the word Metatarsus.......referred to on the web site you
> provided I see in
> their "dog dictionary" it refers to the "rear pastern" as being an area
> between the hock
> and the foot. ???? Say what??? Is it possible something on the
> Internet is incorrect... <G>
> I understand Metatarsus to be the 'flat of the foot'.....the part of the
> human foot between
> the ankle and the toes.......??
> Theresa.....this is such a moot point......and a bit of a boring
> discussion. I'm sure it is best
> we continue this in private if you would like to continue the
> discussion.... rather than take up
> space on the List.
>
> THANKS!
>
>
> Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> www.Marhaven.com
>
>
> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: UKC GSD Breed Standard May 1, 2012
>
>
> Maybe the reason the UKC defined pastern is due to incorrect
> term usage of hock term since both dogs and horses have hocks and
> pasterns.
>
> Dogs do have back rear pasterns just like a horse does.
>
> http://dogtime.com/definition/rear-pastern
>
> Theresa
>
> On Tue, 3/27/12, Carolyn Martello <marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>
> If you consider the importance of it and you feel this is a valid and
> important Breed
> Standard to adhere to...I do not consider bringing up something so
> ridiculous as an
> incorrect body part as "making fun"......so much as a Standard of no
> importance. This
> List ( by it's very name ) supposedly consists of serious and concerned
> Breeder/ Exhibitors
> that DO adhere to the importance of a Breed Standard.......the AKC Breed
> Standard.
> Admittedly I have never read this Breed Standard before....but at a quick
> glance I cannot
> consider it an important issue that it has also accepted whites as an
> official color of the
> German Shepherd Dog.
> If this UKC GSD Breed Standard supposedly is a Standard telling people
> exactly what a
> German Shepherd Dog should be .....and that breeders are expected to
> adhere to it....It
> would seem they would know the correct anatomy of a GSD........or any dog.
> There is no such thing as a rear pastern on any dog any more than we have
> a 'leg elbow'.
>
>
>
>
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