We double to make our dogs look better, we want them to look better because we want them to win, we want to win because we chose this particular avenue to compete, we want to compete because many of us are wired this way.....I have seen the "cat" and perhaps I am different, I thought it was a brilliant idea and I laughed when I saw it, when I found out the parties involved were suspended I was outraged.....if you are going to punish some one for double handling then every one should be punished, don't single some one out because of their unusual method...that cat was not disrupting anyone nor was it in any danger...perhaps I should have been suspended when I almost knocked Janice Staley twenty yards running to double my dog....the hypocrisy in this sport at all levels truly amazes me...some one ringing a bell, playing with a squeaky toy, waving a cooked turkey leg ( yes I did see that, and I thought that was great too) or using a cat in a crate...it's all doubling...you punish one you punish all...its like the steroid thing in baseball that hypocrisy pisses me off too...I really should be in church today....Ed "Donna M. Calabrese" <onaluzlead@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: thats right Peggy you know everything about everything that there is to know...thank you for clarifying it for us right from your computer at home... Your facts are not correct either about the "cat" incident...it was 30 days...and again that was due to poor sportsmanship of others and we paid the price for being successful and people revengeful...NO CAT was ever hurt or mistreated, but if you knew us the way you thought you did, Leslie loves cats more than dogs as do most of the dogs on our property...and spreading those rumors and feeding the internet frenzy the way certain people did was nothing short of malicious...as is people who were not there making statements... Perception is the key word in both issues...and yes, I learned alot of valuable lessons...so I can talk from experience...\ I never called anyone a LIAR those are your words...I said exaggerated, there is a difference. Donna & Leslie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peggy" To: Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 12:26 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: the 3rd side to the two-sided story... > Maybe a fourth side.......maybe more. > There is a lot more to this story than just the German Shepherd > sides...complaints have been made to two different Judges' organizations > by judges (not even German Shepherd judges) about the behaviour of this > rep > on this same weekend. > Remember how the Hunte issue made the Dog Press? This weekend, and > this > rep's behaviour, is likely to do the same thing...and not > because any GSD exhibitor complained, but because those judges complained. > > We know from Peter Gaeta's letter to Becky that nothing will be done. > If the rep behaved better at subsequent shows, it may or may > not be because she was spoken to (probably not)...more than likely she was > suffering from something (PMS, a toothache, who knows what) > on the weekend in question. I don't care, actually. There is NEVER an > excuse for that kind of behaviour. For some of us to call others > liars, which has now been done, is inexusable also...and perhaps an > indication that we, as a group, need to grow up and stop the name-calling > and > rumour spreading. > > As for learning to "be creative" in doubling, perhaps some have > forgotten the comments made on the internet everywhere about some of that > creative > doubling at a specialty not too long ago, which resulted in a 3-month > suspension. Credit was given for time served (just like Michael Vick). > Why are memories so short? > > Peggy > > ============================================================================ > POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the > original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or > FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the > original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. 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