Keep voting those lifer in folks.....lol.....FB ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carolyn Martello" <marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: proudk9@xxxxxxxxx, wynsum@xxxxxxx Cc: "showgsd-l" <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 10:21:49 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: the Fair thing ...... Airlines don't make their decisions for flying our dogs because Purina is nearby.  We only wish.....  <G> It has to do with main hubs for each airline, and the connecting flights and the size of the Cargo doors on the smaller connecting aircraft as many do not have cargo doors that will accommodate a # 500 crate.   Again......"it's not complicated". We should appreciate that Zoe brought up this point to the Board and voted against the site for that reason....keeping the entire membership in mind. It is a big issue when traveling with big males. Personally I think it is only fair to consider EVERY member of this Club when considering every "NATIONAL" site .... every single year.  After all..it IS the 'big' Event of the year and planned on by most of us all year. Some MUST fly...and some CAN drive. The sites should be accommodating for getting dogs there for everyone. Rotating the National can be done without making it completely on one Coast thus making it almost impossible for an entire portion of the membership unable to get there with a dog.  It can be rotated more central to the East and to the West, making it at least DOABLE for almost all of us. Carolyn  marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx www.marhaven.com -----Original Message----- On Behalf Of Jen Proud Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 3:25 PM Now isn't that strange?!?  St. Louis airport won't take a 500 (or larger) crate with Purina Farms being basically down the road?!?  It's not like they don't fit on planes that fly there!!! Though I think KC is closer than Chicago (which I know is 5 hours to St Louis), it seems pretty asinine for an int'l airport not to take larger "cargo"- especially when the owner is flying in-cabin! Wouldn't it be nice if policy changed in the next year. Wonder how we could go about that!?! Boy am I glad I drive most everywhere...  (And that its only around 9-10 hours to Purina Farms making 2 trips [hopefully!] next year...JP&P JayDee's Proud-Haus Shepherds/Proud K911 : > On 22 Sep 2013, at 15:06, Joan Fox wrote: > > BIG problem.....getting dogs in 500 or larger crates to St. Louis. > > <reply> > St Louis does not take 500 crates - I did a lot of research on this before the vote by the Board > and hence I voted against St Louis.> > You can fly into Kansas City or CHicago with 500 crates > > ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2012.  All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post.  This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org  SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2012. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================