----- Original Message ----- From: Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To: showgsd-l digest users Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 6:54 PM Subject: showgsd-l Digest V3 #130 showgsd-l Digest Thu, 12 Jan 2006 Volume: 03 Issue: 130 In This Issue: #1: From: pumagsd@xxxxxxx Subject: Re: Dallas #2: From: pumagsd@xxxxxxx Subject: Re: looking for breeder in Florida #3: From: Patricia Evans <patsgsdpups@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: GSDC of Dallas #4: From: "Ellen Penington" <epeningt@xxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Coat Color Question #5: From: Rbuffdogs@xxxxxxx Subject: Re: Good place to buy a 700 airline crate ? #6: From: Blackoaks1@xxxxxxx Subject: JUDGE BASHING #7: From: Rbuffdogs@xxxxxxx Subject: Re: Coat Color Question #8: From: "Doc Zoe" <wynsum@xxxxxxx> Subject: COAT COLORS #9: From: "Harlowe Jahelka" <hcj2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Is the List Down ? #10: From: Scharo777@xxxxxxx Subject: Re: JUDGE BASHING #11: From: MC3935@xxxxxxx Subject: GSDC of Ft. Lauderdale show #12: From: Barbara Galasso <uwish@xxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Box of memories..... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Msg: #1 in digest Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 17:59:46 -0500 From: pumagsd@xxxxxxx Subject: Re: Dallas Barbara, after finishing my boy, Ande, I am determined to get a really good bitch. Please keep me in mind for something really special......... Thanks, Al -----Original Message----- From: Barbara or DTA Amidon <amidon@xxxxxxxxx> To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 16:42:19 -0500 Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Dallas On a beautiful day in Malaga we are happy to announce our beautiful Kahlua daughter Party Girl OFA Good is to be bred to Dallas this week..Party Girl is with her co owner so I wont have the work..My other Kahlua Daughter is huge in whelp she is due any time..This should keep me busy..I NEVER put colored colors on them I watch them as soon as they can gait and pick them at 8-12 weeks of age..Where it is hard is when it is a strong litter of good ones then only when they are older can you tell who is the best..Then you can still be wrong...Barbara having a good day http://www.geocities.com/amberkennel ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================ ------------------------------ Msg: #2 in digest Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 18:02:04 -0500 From: pumagsd@xxxxxxx Subject: Re: looking for breeder in Florida Contact Amy Safdir. She has excellent quality and can be trusted completely. amsaf@xxxxxxx Al Miami, Fl. -----Original Message----- From: DPiagentin@xxxxxxx To: Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 16:58:15 EST Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] looking for breeder in Florida Received a call today, from a client in Florida, he has an Odin - Ceasar, male that is now 12 years old, and a friend of his is looking for a German Shepherd, since I have none here in NY, I was wondering if anyone in Florida has pups, contact me and I will relay the message unless you would like to call the gentleman yourself. Thanks, Diane ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================ ------------------------------ Msg: #3 in digest Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 15:17:01 -0800 (PST) From: Patricia Evans <patsgsdpups@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: GSDC of Dallas Put me on the list for the revitalization of the Dallas Club. Thanks -Pat Evans. 817.308.6571 ELG440@xxxxxxx wrote: In a message dated 1/11/2006 5:18:20 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, InquestGSD writes: I tell you, as I said to Heather before, all this grandstanding on the list is not warranted. I emailed you privately last nite, but I got no answer from you. You chose to answer here on the List. I answered the List posts, the private ones I keep private, as they should be. Heather said she was asking for a list of club members to see if anyone wanted to keep the club alive. She told me she couldn't get it from anyone who had it, and didn't know who to contact. I understand she is working now with the AKC as she wants the club to continue. We should encourage any club to go on, if possible. We have enough of them closing for financial reasons. I suggested she post to the List, (for the first time) to find a member who might want to save the club. I didn't think any other than the responses that went to the List should be answered. I did get a couple of private posts from club members who did want the club to continue, but if it was voted to close it, then that probably is the end of it. I only responded to List posts. I know that some times a club has to shut down, this is the first time I have heard of it closing by the members. I just found it strange, but perhaps with it's hardest working member leaving the country, it does not have the heart to survive. The Dallas club has always been a great organization, I hate to see it end. I have nothing to do with the Dallas club. I was contacted to find out what to do to save it. I understand the club voted to close itself. Evan _Asgard German Shepherds_ (http://www.asgardgsd.com/) http://www.asgardgsd.com/ Where Type Movement and Temperament come together ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================ --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos - Showcase holiday pictures in hardcover Photo Books. You design it and we'll bind it! ------------------------------ Msg: #4 in digest From: "Ellen Penington" <epeningt@xxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Coat Color Question Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 16:21:51 -0700 I have an 11 month old bitch who appeared to be a bi-color. When she was born she was solid black with just the little bit of brown around her butt. As she grew the tan came in on her legs and she did get some small cheek marks and a little bit of tan on her britches, totally black undercoat. At 7 months old I registered her as a bi-color. Now at 11 months old right after her first season her whole undercoat except on her forward belly and back of neck is turning light colored. Her guard hairs are still black. She almost looks like a dark black sable, sort of frosted looking, but she is not a sable. No banding on the guard hairs and the sire and dam are both black and tans. Also no chance the sire could be any dog other than my back and tan. Has anyone seen this? If so, what will happen as she matures out further? Thanks for any info. Ellen Penington El Dorado German Shepherds www.eldoradogsd.com epeningt@xxxxxxxxxx ------------------------------ Msg: #5 in digest From: Rbuffdogs@xxxxxxx Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 18:23:02 EST Subject: Re: Good place to buy a 700 airline crate ? In a message dated 1/12/2006 12:14:01 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, tykemail@xxxxxxxxx writes: couldn't find an airline that could take a 700 crate in their cargo holds. Yes that is a problem, I believe the Boeing aircraft can take them. I am mostly concerned about use in the house and van. Kathy ------------------------------ Msg: #6 in digest From: Blackoaks1@xxxxxxx Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 18:25:52 EST Subject: JUDGE BASHING Show results at Onofrio are public knowledge. I looked at the results for the Nolan River show on Sunday. I noticed that the person bashing the Judge publicly on the List had one dog entered. It was a 12-18 bitch. She was marked ABSENT. I also noticed that several entered dogs were absent, all with the same agent listed. Hmmm..could this have been because a handler made a decision to pull his entries in protest? sure looks that way. IMO, you can't win if you don't show, and if you don't show....how can you complain? Marcia Hadley http://members.aol.com/Gsdman2/Mikey.html ------------------------------ Msg: #7 in digest From: Rbuffdogs@xxxxxxx Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 18:27:20 EST Subject: Re: Coat Color Question Ellen writes:Now at 11 months old right after her first season her whole undercoat except on her forward belly and back of neck is turning light colored. >>> Correct me if I am wrong, isn't the undercoat in a Bi Color always light? I know in a true genetic black it is black. Kathy WEBSITE UPDATED: Jan 8, 2005 _http://www.victorygermanshepherds.com_ (http://www.victorygermanshepherds.com/) VICTORY GSDs, There Is Something In A Name ------------------------------ Msg: #8 in digest From: "Doc Zoe" <wynsum@xxxxxxx> Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 18:36:32 -0500 Subject: COAT COLORS WE have samples of all coat colors on the showgsd website http://showgsd.org/coat.html All my litters are born solid black. I check under their butt's for the r= ed mark and then know that they are blackand red/tan. I was under the impression that bi was just a varient of black and red, an= d not a color used in the AKC registration. Dr Zo=EB M Backman http://wynsumgsd.com Support Your Vets and POW/MIAs ------------------------------ Msg: #9 in digest From: "Harlowe Jahelka" <hcj2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Is the List Down ? Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 17:45:41 -0600 Hi All, No posts from the list all day!!!!!!!!! that has never happened before!!!!!!!!! Harlowe Jahelka Belleterre GSDs and Brussels Griffons Monterey, TN ------------------------------ Msg: #10 in digest From: Scharo777@xxxxxxx Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 18:46:05 EST Subject: Re: JUDGE BASHING In a message dated 1/12/2006 5:26:24 PM Central Standard Time, Blackoaks1@xxxxxxx writes: I noticed that the person bashing the Judge publicly on the List had one dog entered. It was a 12-18 bitch. She was marked ABSENT. I also noticed that several entered dogs were absent, all with the same agent listed. Hmmm..could this have been because a handler made a decision to pull his entries in protest? sure looks that way. IMO, you can't win if you don't show, and if you don't show....how can you complain? Marcia Hadley In defense of Carolyn, she had no part in wanting her bitch pulled. The handler was upset at the judging in males. I though the male he put up was pretty nice. So did Carolyn (And I went 3rd to him) Carol Moore ------------------------------ Msg: #11 in digest From: MC3935@xxxxxxx Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 18:47:01 EST Subject: GSDC of Ft. Lauderdale show I just checked the entry breakdown for the Ft. Lauderdale GSDC. This shows have always been majors Sat Jan 28th 4 dogs/ 2 bitches Sun. Jan 29th 4 dogs/ 2 bitches No Specials. Manny Campo ------------------------------ Msg: #12 in digest Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 18:53:31 -0500 From: Barbara Galasso <uwish@xxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Box of memories..... Well the weather men said it was suppose to get nice out, and I waited and waited and then finally today, they got it right. I've been wanting to go to my storage and rummage through some old boxes looking for some things. I didn't even know where to begin. There's so many boxes in there. I wanted to look for a bag of syringes I have for when I breed my Amber in a few weeks. I knew I had them in there. I saved them. Thank goodness, so I'll have them for her puppies shots. Also I was looking for old Reviews that I had saved. I only saved the ones that I advertised in. Couldn't take them all. Wow, looking at all those ads from the 80's, (and so far, I've only had time to look at my ads), I did a tremendous amount of advertising. Most of them were 2, 3, and 4 pages long. These old Reviews were done so well. There's a great article on the Fords in one of them that I can't wait to read. One of the Reviews was 300 plus pages! I can't wait to look at all the other ads as well. I was such a very fortunate person and still consider myself to be so. I don't mean in the wealth department as one would expect wealth to mean. I mean I was surrounded by a wealth of magnificent people. With this box of old Reviews, I also had some dog albums of some of my first litters. My very first litter was from a bitch that Marge Dolan was kind enough to lease to a very novice person..... me, (maybe she was a Reno dtr.) and I bred her to Ch. Doppelt Tay's Steel Curtain. I bred to three of Lorraine Cliffords dogs. Hawkeye and Hammer were the other two. Never did get anything from Hawkeye though. The bitch missed. But the "WOW" part of this, when I looked in my album................I have pictures of Lorraine setting up Steel Curtain and Hammer out on her front lawn and on her street in front of her house. She was such a fun and knowledgeable lady. I have pictures of LaMar setting up Steel Curtain, and Charlie for me. LaMar was the ever showman! None of these were show pictures. Just candid shots. What great memories! It broke my heart to read the long letter that someone wrote the other day saying how hurt she was about having a well known breeder who she was or did get a puppy from (I can't remember which) have her totally snub her at the National. I had some of the best breeders in the business help me get started and they were better known than this person is and they NEVER treated me this way. I started out with Capt. Goldbecker, Marge Dolan, and Lorraine Clifford. All fantastically helpful and great mentors. I went on to be good friends with Connie Beckhardt who was just about the nicest person in the breed and I can never thank the Conroy's enough for selling me Xanadu. I have used every well known handler on the east coast, and never was any of them nasty or rude to me. My very first handler was Jimmy and he was always very professional with me. I worked well with them all, Leslie, LaMar, George, Scott, Billy, Henry, Freddie and never had a problem. None of them used filthy language with me or got out of hand. I guess it all goes back to the saying people treat you the way that you allow them to treat you. Now I've been back in the breed only over a year and am privileged to own a bitch from one of Barbara Amidon's breedings. Nice way to start again. So why are not more people helping the novice who so desperately wants to be helped? I had the best people in the dog game help me. What's going on with the top breeders today?. Certainly, none of them are anymore prestigious than those that were kind to me. Please be kind to the future of our breed, so some day when these people pull out their old Reviews and their own dog albums that they can look back fondly as I did on all those that helped them get where they will some day be too. Kindness actually takes less energy than rudeness. Best, Barbara Galasso ------------------------------ End of showgsd-l Digest V3 #130 ******************************* ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================