In a message dated 1/12/2006 5:20:42 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, amidon@xxxxxxxxx writes: ...Plus by only breeding sound dogs will you get sound dogs....Barbara Thank you for saying that Barbara...TEMPERAMENT IS GENETIC....PERIOD. A sound dog is a sound dog, even with some difficult history...a spook is a spook , eventhough training may hide it from many. A GSD should NEVER appear nervous, or unsure, much less shake, cower, and roll its eyes at something as innocuous as the approach of a judge. By the same token, any GSD over puppy age, that goes waggin , kissy faced, hearts and flowers up to a judge (stranger) is not correct. GSD, not Golden Retriever. Smoke and mirrors and crafty training can hide cowardice and nervousness, but bad genetics goes to the bone. lol IMHO Kathy WEBSITE UPDATED: Jan 8, 2005 _http://www.victorygermanshepherds.com_ (http://www.victorygermanshepherds.com/) VICTORY GSDs, There Is Something In A Name ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================