But if he is an AKC judge and we are doing our best to get qualified judges, shouldn't that be the last thing we ask? Shouldn't our dog speak for itself. If I only enter under judges who I "know" what they will like and not like, isn't that encouaging a judge to be a poor judge? Over and over again I read on this list and read what the judges comments were in the GSDby design article that they only judge the dog, not the color, not the type not the handler not the owner. So what I am saying is that something is wrong when we find out before hand what a judge likes and doesn't like before we worry about the cost of gas and so on. It should not matter who the judge is because the best dog should win and if you only enter under judges who will pick your "type" of dog, you don't get an accurate reading of your breeding stock. I want to win and have often been beaten by people who pick a judge who know them and their "type" of dog, not the dog, so I am not convinced that picking judges who only like what i am showing is the way to go. It cost me every bit as much as it does you to enter and go to the show, so I want a judge that only judges the dog not someone who only likes someone's type of dog. An honest knowledgeable judge shouldn't have a "type" they like. It should always be the best dog of the day. I agree with one thing, it is darn expensive to go to a show, but that is why I pick the show and not the judge. I want the show to be everything it can be whether i win or not Pam In a message dated 3/20/2008 11:28:33 AM Central Standard Time, Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: Msg: #11 in digest From: Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 13:15:32 EDT Subject: Re: judges likes/dislikes I care. I care a whole lot. If it isn't a knowledgeable judge who looks at the south end of a leash I might as well stay home, read a good book, play with the dogs and make a checkout to my favorite charity. That sounds like a whole lot better of a day than being disgusted by bad judging. Kathy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC Celebrating generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions visit www.geocities.com/pinehillgsds In a message dated 3/20/2008 11:39:06 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, Culzeans1@xxxxxxx writes: Who cares what he likes, a good dog is a good dog to a judge RIGHT? We should pick our shows with the cost of gas and everything else that goes along with it. Not the judges. **************Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15?ncid=aolhom00030000000001) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================